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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:37 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:37 am to
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Air Jordan's would have been better.


We are talking Russians it would have been Adidas.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:46 am to
The proof is down the road and not for now as the clueless seem to think.

Sure their gross receipts for sale of oil is up, and we know about the discounts given to China and India, which obviously reduces net return, but what is unclear is whether there a rebates given and adding to expense.

Russia has proven that it doesn't have to technology to drill and produce efficiently on its own. In the past, at least in 2015, drilling was funded by the World Bank, in Russia.

Chips and parts to repair/replace their devastated military hardware will make replenishment in 4 years turn to a decade in a hurry. Russia cannot make some of its own parts. That capability just doesn't exist.

Russia uses imported labor from several NATO countries for turnarounds and new construction in its chemical/refining sector. It lacks skilled labor. Without the imported labor, production will likely suddenly take a nosedive in say a year if not sooner.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10494 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:01 am to
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Full retreat


Wow, admitting a full retreat. That’s the only non delusional comment you’ve posted.

Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10494 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:05 am to
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That please don’t use our howitzers to strike into Russia directive may be null and void. A whole lot more may now be on the table actually.


That’s not a realistic option for Ukraine nor would it help them.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 8:05 am
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10494 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:06 am to
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quote: use our howitzers to strike into Russia That would be a waste of resources for Ukraine.


Absolutely. And do more harm than good.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 8:08 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:08 am to
There is exaggerating and then there is out right lying and Russian propaganda needs to do better at that balance

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Russian MoD statistics - in one day they destroyed almost one thousand Ukrainian artillery guns and mortars. LINK





This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 8:09 am
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10494 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:11 am to
Lt Col Daniel Davis -

“There is no rational reason to hope that the war can turn around, because Russia is methodically moving forward and destroying the Ukrainian armed forces in the Donbas.”

The situation in Ukraine is 'overwhelmingly' in favor of Russia
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 8:12 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:16 am to
Curious what the reason is behind this

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??Zelensky fires ambassadors to Georgia, Slovakia and Portugal.

President Zelensky signed a decree dismissing Ukraine's Ambassador to Georgia, Ihor Dolhov, to Slovakia, Yurii Mushka, and to Portugal, Inna Ohnivets, all appointed under Zelensky's predecessor Petro Poroshenko.


From the Kyiv Independent
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:30 am to
This seems to me to be more questionable military assistance as I I think Ukraines navy has not been operational since the invasion started, but someone correct me if I'm wrong

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??The new package of military assistance to Ukraine from the USA will include 18 boats :

- two 10-meter, small-unit riverine craft;
- six 12-meter maritime combat craft;
- and ten 11-meter, Dauntless Sea Ark patrol boats.


@Flash43191300
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:32 am to
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#Ukrainians may begin to be forced into an unfavorable "peace treaty" for them, #British Prime Minister Boris Johnson believes. However, if Putin achieves his goals, it will threaten the world in the future. LINK
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5753 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:48 am to
Just in case this youtube of HIMARS in action hasn't been posted yet.

Land forces of Ukraine

Translated caption...

M142 HIMARS multiple rocket launchers are already working in the interests of Ukraine's defense. Artillerymen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine skillfully hit certain targets - military targets of the enemy on our, Ukrainian, territory.

HIMARS youtube

“Artillerymen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine skillfully hit determined targets – enemy military objects on our own Ukrainian territory.

Many thanks to the American people for provided weapons!
Our goal is Victory,” the Ukrainian servicemen stressed in a statement.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 8:50 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:58 am to
the xfiles theme is a nice touch
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150469 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:59 am to
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The west won’t do anything real about it. The leaders are weak virtue signalers.
and when putin threatens retribution on finland and lithuania and us he is doing what?
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:13 am to
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fired half a hundred missiles


Why not just say fifty?

Are the journalists required to hit a specific word count or receive a failing grade?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:17 am to
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when putin threatens retribution on finland and lithuania and us he is doing what?


How many times ITT have we been told that NOW Russia is taking off the gloves

They may be doing better but the gloves were never on
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:08 am to
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#NATO member states will agree on a full assistance package for #Ukraine at the #Madrid summit.

??El Pais LINK


quote:

#Breaking: Severodonetsk is being reported as under Russian occupation. This comes after Ukraine and Russia both fought heavily for the city and Ukrainian forces began a withdraw yesterday.

2nd one from @The_IntelHub
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:22 am to
Ukraine has already bombed Russian supply depots, fuel and ammo in Russia. They also blew up a refinery in Russia.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:24 am to
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Ukraine is starting to draft disabled people


Good, there’s hope for a few in this thread to be productive now.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:30 am to
Looks like Davis never met a far leftist media he wouldn't to speak too.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 8:13 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:36 am to
some OLD former Soviet vessels along with OLD former USCG patrol craft. They sold off some of the fleet such as a former not completed aircraft carrier to China a few decades ago, not sure how much old Soviet vessels sold in addition to this. This was after Clinton and Yeltsin assured Ukraine of being secure.

The new vessels seem to be more advanced than old Soviet crap under 40 feet long. these seem more apt from commando raids along the coast.
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