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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:46 pm to DabosDynasty
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:46 pm to DabosDynasty
Not reaching Moscow before the Russian winter but more than the the cold it was the mud that stopped the German army in its tracks. They had never experienced conditions like that which made their superior armor useless. The war ended December 11th, 1941; the day Hitler declared war on the USA. It was just a matter of time from there. They had horses and we had GM and Ford. The bombing of Pearl Harbor might have been the best day of Churchill’s life.
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:47 pm to Palmetto98
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Russia got what it wanted plain and simple.
Russia today is a poorer (IMF projects a 30% decline in its economy this year and their foreign currency reserves went poof), smaller (300,000 Russians are estimated to have emigrated since the start of the war) and more isolated nation (sanctioned by governments and abandoned by foreign investors) than on February 23. It’s military is also much weaker today (see sailors smoking on deck)
And the bleeding of men and resources for Russia is just beginning. This isn’t 22 AD where the invaders haul of the bounty from Gaul back to Rome. It is 2022. Occupying a foreign nation today does not enrich the occupier. It bleeds them.
If Russia has gotten what it wanted it is a masochist.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:57 pm to WeeWee
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6 million women, children and old folks fled. Fighting aged men stuck around. "I need bullets, not a ride" isn't exactly begging - it is the truth. Putin's biggest miscalculation was Zelensky's ability to rally his people.
Literally none of this long arse post or the other guy that responded to me actually goes against anything I said. No one thought Ukraine stood a chance in this war when the Russians first crossed the border. Luckily everyone was wrong. So unless you want to point to a post or yours or anyone else’s from the first couple weeks of the invasion that says “Yeah, Ukraine has this shot in the bag” then I don’t know why you’re arguing with me.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:03 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:Just before the invasion, the US intel leadership were tipping off the Ukrainians to Russian plans, and doing it with maximum publicity.
No one thought Ukraine stood a chance in this war when the Russians first crossed the border.
It seems to me if they thought Russia would steamroll Ukraine and achieve their blitzkrieg goals, they wouldn't have done that.
They would have just sat back in the shadows and moved on with the results. They believed Ukraine had a chance or we never would have seen that behavior from them.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:24 pm to tokenBoiler
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Just before the invasion, the US intel leadership were tipping off the Ukrainians to Russian plans, and doing it with maximum publicity.
It seems to me if they thought Russia would steamroll Ukraine and achieve their blitzkrieg goals, they wouldn't have done that.
The goal for the US has always been make Russia pay for every inch they take.
That goal has evolved to bleed the Russians out.
And be careful giving intel (especially US) too much or any credit. Same group that brought you Pearl Harbor, Battle of the Bulge and Tet.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:25 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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No one thought Ukraine stood a chance in this war when the Russians first crossed the border.
The Ukrainians thought they had a chance. They are somebody.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:48 pm to tokenBoiler
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It seems to me if they thought Russia would steamroll Ukraine and achieve their blitzkrieg goals, they wouldn't have done that.
It seems to me you’re making assumptions based on nothing other than confirmation bias. Unless of course you want to point to me a post of yours that says you that Ukraine would win because the US shared some intel with Ukraine prior to the invasion
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:49 pm to cypher
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The Ukrainians thought they had a chance. They are somebody.
Did you? And if so can you point me to a post saying you thought as much?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:50 pm to Palmetto98
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itler did what made sense on paper, the Nazis were never going to win the war
He made a few terrible decisions that cost them the war. One example is after the development of the jet engine, hitler thought it better to delay manufacturing until a bomber jet was made rather than producing fighter jets that were already designed
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:54 pm to Palmetto98
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think all of the Nazis were incompetent and crazy. That’s what fascism is lol.
So you admit Putin is incompetent and crazy?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:03 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Did you? And if so can you point me to a post saying you thought as much?
Irrelevant question but I'll answer anyway.
I thought they would put up a fight but had no clue as to how long they could last.
If you had said "Nobody but the Ukrainians thought they had a chance" then I would have agreed.
Irrelevant question but I'll answer anyway.
I thought they would put up a fight but had no clue as to how long they could last.
If you had said "Nobody but the Ukrainians thought they had a chance" then I would have agreed.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:08 pm to StormyMcMan
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They made a fee strategic bouncers thar fell right at of Hitler that stopped them from winning thankfully. The of at leaders biggest one without even Googleing
Beautifully articulated brother bear
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:18 pm to cypher
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Did you? And if so can you point me to a post saying you thought as much?
No
That’s why I don’t sit here and act like I’m some genius that saw this coming like you do. Because you’re not, and you didn’t. You thought they would get their arse whipped. And frankly you don’t have a fricking clue what the Ukrainians were thinking when the war started. Thousands of countries over the ages have fought against hopeless odds against foreign invaders. The Ukrainians were lucky enough to have the entire planet on their side. Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:21 pm to LSUPilot07
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Not reaching Moscow before the Russian winter but more than the the cold it was the mud that stopped the German army in its tracks. They had never experienced conditions like that which made their superior armor useless.
Which is why I consider Hitler's decision to delay the drive on Moscow by 6 weeks to capture Kyiv Hitler's biggest mistake. The decision to invade the USSR was a mistake, but Germany still had a chance. If it had not wasted 6 weeks trying to capture an encircled Kyiv for political reasons and pushed on towards Moscow then Germany's forces would have been in a much better position and the Soviets in a worse position to when the fall Rasputitsa ended and the ground froze.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:21 pm to cypher
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Did you? And if so can you point me to a post saying you thought as much?
In the first days of the invasion I (like probably almost everyone) assumed that the Russian military was better organized and better equipped than it was.
However, by the beginning of March, I had become convinced that Russia had made a massive miscalculation and that Ukraine held the upper hand. By that time it was clear that the only way Russia could have any chance of recovery was to get out as soon as possible.
Of course, Russia did not do that. (They rarely follow my advice.) And as I said then, the trap is sprung.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:21 pm to OldmanBeasley
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Beautifully articulated brother bear
Emotional, typed it out quickly. Didn't proof. Went straight to post. I've done it before.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:23 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:24 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Literally none of this long arse post or the other guy that responded to me actually goes against anything I said. No one thought Ukraine stood a chance in this war when the Russians first crossed the border. Luckily everyone was wrong. So unless you want to point to a post or yours or anyone else’s from the first couple weeks of the invasion that says “Yeah, Ukraine has this shot in the bag” then I don’t know why you’re arguing with me.
I did and I have the post history to prove it. I gave Ukraine some chance based on how much I know the Ukrainians hate the Russians. Hold on a minute and I will go back a few months in my post history and prove it.
ETA: My posts from Feb.
quote:02/18/2022
Yes I can't wait to see Putin get his arse kicked. Do bisa Rosiya!
quote:02/17/2022
I have not checked the weather in Ukraine lately. Is there a cold front coming that will cause the ground to freeze? If the ground does not freeze Russia will be stuck in the mud.
Nothing to see here except me accurately predicting the Russian invasion route through the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone a week before the invasion.
quote:02/11/2022
The 130,000 Russian troops should be really mad at having to live in out door barracks the last several months, in the middle of a freezing Russian winter.
What about the 650,000 Ukrainian soldiers on the other side of the line that have been living in trenches during the same winter?
Just me accurately predicting Ukraine not rolling over for Russia back in January.
Should I continue? Of course it's a little unfair for me to take all the credit since I have sauce(s) in the UAF, Ukrainian intelligence, friends in Ukraine, and friends in Russia. To any NSA/CIA/FBI or LEO reading this. No I have not received any compensation from anyone in Ukraine or Russia and I have only been told what was already made public in Ukraine and Russia.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:24 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Another Russian General Reported Dead in Ukraine
Damn, Ukraine intel has to be the best on earth. How many generals does Russia have left?
Damn, Ukraine intel has to be the best on earth. How many generals does Russia have left?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:29 pm to OldmanBeasley
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Beautifully articulated brother bear
I edited but damn I didn't reread before I posted and that was something else
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