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re: Kids with phones or tablets.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 10:39 am to StringedInstruments
Posted on 11/17/21 at 10:39 am to StringedInstruments
With 4 Parenting topics on the front page of the OT, do we need a parenting board? A non-troll place for such discussions?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:15 am to jm_1776
Kids don’t need a phone before middle school. Any parent who gives them one just wants them to leave them alone. It’s a social thing now like wearing Nikes vs Jordache back in the 80s.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:24 am to Clark W Griswold
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:37 am to StringedInstruments
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Can’t speak to a percentage, but as someone who teaches at an upper middle class middle school, I can say that the overwhelming majority of students have smart phones. In fact, two years ago, we had a student who didn’t have a phone at all and she was brought up by the counselor for potential social issues because of it.
that is nuts. My kids go to upper middle to wealth private school and my oldest is in 5th. no kids have cell phones in 5th and really only see some of the 8th graders.
there is nothing wrong with them having the phones, its the social media and the ability to send pictures in text that is the issue.
OP my kids have tablets, also have access to internet. I can see every sight they go to from my phone through the unifi system. Also they have messenger and i can see all of those too. I am lucky and have good kids and havent had to restrict too much yet.
Also have it setup where it turns off internet access to their tablets at 830 and tvs at 9.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:41 am to jm_1776
My kid has had an iPad since she was 2. She watches it when she is winding down usually. And she has some games and shite on there…she is 5 now.
I deleted YouTube bc she was watching some weird shite.
I deleted YouTube bc she was watching some weird shite.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:04 pm to jm_1776
Only my oldest has a cell phone (in college)
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:09 pm to jm_1776
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age of 13 allow
Mine if 14 and has a nicer phone than I do
He's had one for 3-4 years so I can keep in touch with him
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:10 pm to StringedInstruments
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So when the kid is emotionally distraught due to a lack of friends and difficulty to connect with them outside of school, the counselor should just ignore it? Or say, “this is what your parents decided. Get over it”?
yea its none of her fricking business.
in the end the parents should have a home phone. But in middle school, how much do you need to be connecting to your friends outside of school?
maybe different for girls, but my boys(oldest is 5th grade) live in a neighborhood and all the boys are outside everyday not sitting inside talking and texting on the phone.
but mine have tablets but only facebook messenger that i monitor.
they will get a phone in 7th or 8th grade that will prolly not have the ability to send photos or receive and for sure will not have social media.
socail media is the fricking devil imo, especially for little girls.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:39 pm to jm_1776
2yr old son only gets his tablet when we are driving a long distance. Other than that we do not use it.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:01 pm to jm_1776
Our 11 year old got her phone at the start of the school year. She started middle school and it is assumed by teachers and admin that all students will have a phone. She is not allowed to use it in school or they can take it. She uses it mostly to text us about who is picking her up from school in the afternoon or when her sports practice is done or text friends. When she walks in the door, the phone goes down on the charger until she is done with her homework and chores. She usually gets it back a little before bedtime but then hands it over to us when it is lights out. We have it locked down and frequently go through her messages and history. I would say she watches weird YouTube Shorts mostly.
I still thought she was too young for a phone but I compromised on the condition she wasn't allowed to have apps like Snapchat, Tik Tok, or Instagram (which most of her friends have and is super annoying as a parent who says no). I'm glad I stuck to that because SO MUCH drama this year has happened on those two platforms. My kid stays out of drama normally but it is easier when she doesn't have those apps.
Our six year old has a Kindle that is locked down to Netflix, Prime, and Disney+ set to her profile. She mostly watches it at night to wind down. She'd much prefer raking leaves outside or playing Mario Kart on the Switch to any games on the tablet anyway.
I still thought she was too young for a phone but I compromised on the condition she wasn't allowed to have apps like Snapchat, Tik Tok, or Instagram (which most of her friends have and is super annoying as a parent who says no). I'm glad I stuck to that because SO MUCH drama this year has happened on those two platforms. My kid stays out of drama normally but it is easier when she doesn't have those apps.
Our six year old has a Kindle that is locked down to Netflix, Prime, and Disney+ set to her profile. She mostly watches it at night to wind down. She'd much prefer raking leaves outside or playing Mario Kart on the Switch to any games on the tablet anyway.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:04 pm to lsu777
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yea its none of her fricking business.
Except it’s literally the counselor’s job to ensure the social and emotional well-being of students in order for them to participate and succeed in school. You could always homeschool if you have an issue with that.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:04 pm to Nguyener
life would be monumentally easier if I just threw my kids in front of a screen and used that screen to navigate their entire lives. I’d be a pathetic excuse for a parent but at least I’d be selfishly happy while sacrificing my child’s life for my own.
You sound fun at parties. Don’t talk religious, politics, or kids with that fricker. The second your kid gets that forbidden device in their hand they will lose their shite. Like a Pentecostal girl leaving the house in family clothes and changing into a whore uniform the minute she’s in a friends car.
You sound fun at parties. Don’t talk religious, politics, or kids with that fricker. The second your kid gets that forbidden device in their hand they will lose their shite. Like a Pentecostal girl leaving the house in family clothes and changing into a whore uniform the minute she’s in a friends car.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:21 pm to jm_1776
quote:10 year old twins here, only phones they have are older phones of mine that they can basically only use at home. It has no data, just WiFi access.
Curious what percentage of parents with children under the age of 13 allow them to have a phone or tablet and what is their reasoning?
In fact, just last weekend the one kid proved why they aren't getting their own phones to have and take everywhere. I took him to a monster truck, and we basically had a near 2 hour lull between going down on the floor to see the trucks and the start of the show, so it was probably the first time I ever let him take the phone out of the house and with him...aaaaaand he lost it lol. Luckily it's an older phone of mine so I don't care in the least, but it just proved why they can't have their own regular phones, and instead they have watches with text/calling access that they wear to school and we can use for GPS if needed.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:21 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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You sound fun at parties
I am. We’re not at a party. Do you often try and discuss in-depth parenting issues at parties? I don’t.
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The second your kid gets that forbidden device in their hand they will lose their shite
All children test boundaries. Don’t pretend that doesn’t happen. I don’t hide the fact that phones exist from them. All children face tests. Preparing your children for those tests is important. Forcing them to confront those boundaries before they can mentally handle them is shitty parenting.
I’m sure your child has never once strayed from the right path because you were sure to give them a computer as a toddler. That’s a weak argument.
Give your kid a phone early otherwise they’ll get one later!
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Like a Pentecostal girl leaving the house in family clothes and changing into a whore uniform the minute she’s in a friends car.
Another weak argument.
Yoir kid will likely try drugs eventually might as well get them addicted young right?
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:47 pm to StringedInstruments
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Except it’s literally the counselor’s job to ensure the social and emotional well-being of students in order for them to participate and succeed in school. You could always homeschool if you have an issue with that.
not having a cell phone doesnt mean someone is not social or emotionally well enough to participate in school!!
how frick up is this...you are saying...if you dont have a smartphone by middle school...you are not emotionally capable of attending school. How frickign retarded are you?
and sorry 7th adn 8th graders arent doing that much on the phone anyways. I have neices that age adn i will say little girls do way more but they arent on it all day and night.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:03 pm to lsu777
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if you dont have a smartphone by middle school...you are not emotionally capable of attending school. How frickign retarded are you?
Well I have multiple degrees in education and 15 years of experience. So slightly retarded.
Yes, especially at the ages of 11-14, something like being in an environment where 99% of the student body has a cellphone and one kid does not can be deleterious to their school performance. Kids that age care way more about their friends and social prospects than algebra.
You’re misconstruing the purpose of the counselor’s concern. No one is trying to ensure that the student has an active social media page with unlimited access to the Internet. The OP simply asked about how many kids have phones or tablets. In some environments, it’s nearly ubiquitous that kids have access to devices that allow for messaging and connection between peers.
Not sure why that bothers you so much. Counselors are there to help kids in need. Sometimes parents cause those issues. Sometimes it’s society. Sometimes both. Sometimes hormones.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:04 pm to jm_1776
Mine had a phone younger but she would travel without me and I wanted her to have one. I always had certain parental controls on there.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:08 pm to lsu777
quote:Found the out of touch dad. At least 25% have cell phones at that age and wealth range, probably closer to 50%. By the time they are 7th grade it will be about 85%.
My kids go to upper middle to wealth private school and my oldest is in 5th. no kids have cell phones in 5th
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:10 pm to fallguy_1978
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Kids with phones or tablets.
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Kids are active, kids need a phone.
Mine got one in middle school. She'd do things like staying after school for track or band practice. She needed to be able to call us to come get her, stuff like that.
This
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:32 pm to WDE24
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Found the out of touch dad. At least 25% have cell phones at that age and wealth range, probably closer to 50%. By the time they are 7th grade it will be about 85%.
nope i am very involved and in touch and good friends with most of the parents, hell i coach the damn 5th grade football team...atleast the boys...only 1 has one. I know this for a fact.
dunno about the girls, i dont have any. sure its a much bigger deal for them.
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