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re: Kate Steinle's, killed by an illegal immigrant in SF, murderer found not guilty

Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14210 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:49 pm to
EVERYTHING!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112946 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:49 pm to
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But in a police interrogation, Garcia Zarate admitted to firing the gun
Not guilty, makes perfect sense.
Posted by Fivestarschief
Member since Nov 2017
123 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:49 pm to
All of the jurors need to be hanged. Or, we let some Mexican kill someone close to each juror "accidentally" and see what they want to have done with an illegal then.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99045 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:50 pm to
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If that were my daughter I’d not only go after him but the jury too



Execution style

Bullet to the head no questions asked
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49211 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:51 pm to
Wow, this is horrible. I hate it for the family. I know a guilty verdict wouldn't have changed what happened, obviously, but maybe could have helped provide a tiny bit of closure.

Why does California seem to have a problem convicting people who are obviously guilty. This POS even admitted to it. Part of me feels it's an "F U" from the jury, sort of like the O.J. case. Which is horrible and makes a mockery of our justice system.
Posted by landhawg
Member since Feb 2012
587 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49211 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:53 pm to
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He'll be deported, then return within a couple months.
Ha! You're wrong! This isn't possible, just listen to the dems who will tell you so. It's not like he's done it 5 times before. That was just made up by the conservative media to try and push an agenda.

Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16221 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:53 pm to
Does California have responsive verdicts? Also the bullet apparently richoucheted off the ground first. Not sure how this wasn’t negligent homicide.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59352 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:54 pm to
IWSHI
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49211 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:55 pm to
That's awesome. I've always thought they should have made one with California to go along with the Florida gif. Never knew it was already done though. Nice one.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:58 pm to
The thing that I don't understand is that they said he wasn't guilty of negligent homicide because he didn't know what he was doing was dangerous. But then they said he was guilty of felon in possession of a firearm even though it was supposedly wrapped up and he didn't know what it was.


It sounds like the jury basically asked themselves what the most minimum charge they could give him so they didn't completely lose face in the public eye.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:00 pm to
How that isn't even manslaughter is mind boggling. I guarantee you that if he wasn't an illegal it would have been.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14210 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:02 pm to
An illegal in CA, which has declared its idiotic self a 'sanctuary state.' I guess it wasn't a sanctuary for Kate!
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49211 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:02 pm to
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Not sure how this wasn’t negligent homicide.
At the very least, that's what it should have been.

However, while I'm not exactly sure of what would have to be the case for a murder charge, I feel like he should have got some kind of murder charge. Simply because he fired the gun towards people. The fatal shot may have ricocheted off the ground, but why was he firing a gun in the direction of people anyways? Even if he was "shooting at a seal",you don't fire a gun towards a crowd of people.

I get it that even if he was trying to shoot a seal and it ricocheted off the ground and hit Kate and killed her, that it was probably "technically" negligent homicide. What I don't get is how someone can't be charged with murder if they're shooting guns into a crowd. That's more than just negligence, IMO.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 8:05 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:03 pm to
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So the jury found he had zero criminal responsibility for her death???


That is pretty shocking.

It was at least some level of manslaughter.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:04 pm to
San Fransisco is the worst.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:06 pm to
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How that isn't even manslaughter is mind boggling. I guarantee you that if he wasn't an illegal it would have been.

They take gun crimes seriously in CA unless you're one of their heroic illegal immigrants. Then you can kill someone and get away with it.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16221 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:06 pm to
i would be intent played a large role in this trial.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63326 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:07 pm to
Well, he was found not guilty because the prosecutors tried to charge him with the wrong charges....shame on them for doing a shitty job.

Since when do we deport people instead of having them pay for their crimes against our society?
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9431 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:07 pm to
This is why everyone needs to report to jury duty, act as “progressive” as possible, and render some sweet guilty verdicts on these dirt bags.
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