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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:38 am to
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:38 am to
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It’s obvious he fishing. She’s doing really well correcting him and sticking to her expert opinion.


Brennan has to blow this witness out of the water. He is attempting to but failing because John O'Keefe was bit by a dog.
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
1430 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:42 am to
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He is attempting to but failing because John O'Keefe was bit by a dog.


I agree. No way the impact from a car broke the tail light and gashed his arm like that in the same single impact, IMHO. That's what the defense needs an expert to say.
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:46 am to
All of his “aha!” And gotcha moments are falling flat and it’s pretty glorious to watch.
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:58 am to
To me, this is what happens when you have a witness who is straight forward, is credible and knows her field. She’s comfortable up there and he can’t catch her because there is nothing to lie about. She has a reason why she came up with her conclusions and confidently explains it. He needs to hang it up.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:10 am to
Alessi cooking and asking for mistrial with prejudice.

Bev will deny as always since she is in the pocket of the CW.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:12 am to
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So I found out this morning that a guy I know (a little) from my gym had to testify in the trial. Nice guy and doesn’t talk much, so that was a funny surprise.


Who was it?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:18 am to
Did anything happen in the last hour or so? I was away from it for awhile.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:22 am to
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He is attempting to but failing because John O'Keefe was bit by a dog.


Exactly. I am not at all any type of expert, but I remember seeing the the marks on his arm for the first time and thinking that there was no way that was caused by being hit by a vehicle. Its too specific especially since his only marks were on his arm and the back of his head. That makes no sense.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:26 am to
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Did anything happen in the last hour or so? I was away from it for awhile.



You mean besides Brennan cheating and Alessi calling for a mistrial with prejudice? They are on break while she considers how to tell KR's defense team to frick off.

There are tons of situations just like this DNA debacle which will bode well for her in the event she were to get convicted.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:44 am to
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Who was it?

John something. I believe it starts with a D. I’ve never learned his last name I just call him John.

Edit: the last name is definitely not O’Keefe, just to clear that up.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:45 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147126 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:44 am to
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They are on break while she considers how to tell KR's defense team to frick off.

Not only the mistrial motion denied... CW is being allowed to go down the path they were heading which caused the motion in the 1st place
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:45 am to
There have been so many I don't even recall a John (other than OJO).

Motion for mistrial: DENIED

Shocker!
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:49 am to
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Not only the mistrial motion denied... CW is being allowed to go down the path they were heading which caused the motion in the 1st place



She legitimately doesn't care.
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:52 am to
Let’s look on the bright side. I don’t think a jury can find her guilty of any changes beyond reasonable doubt and they can’t try her again afterward. Let’s hope that is the case anyway.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:53 am
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
1430 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:54 am to
How can he bring in no DNA found without showing what and when the evidence was tested for DNA? Brennan just gets to say no dog DNA found and the defense has no chance to cross Brennans expert
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
1430 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:55 am to
How can Brennan bring in no dog DNA found without showing what and when the evidence was tested for DNA? Brennan just gets to say no dog DNA found and the defense has no chance to cross Brennans claim.

The defense should be allowed to call Brennan then to testify how he arrived at the fact no dog DNA was found.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:58 am
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:56 am to
Brennan is still fishing. I’m bored.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18993 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:01 am to
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I don’t think a jury can find her guilty of any changes beyond reasonable doubt and they can’t try her again afterward. Let’s hope that is the case anyway.

What do you mean they can't try her again?
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:08 am to
If she’s found not guilty of what she’s being charged with, she cannot be tried again for same crime.

If mistrial, the CW has stated they will try her as many times as it takes … don’t know if they were bluffing or what.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18993 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:14 am to
Right. I wasn’t sure if you were saying if the jury doesn’t find her guilty then she can’t be tried again or not.
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