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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:11 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:11 am to
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On John's ring camera video you can see her brake light still shining red, and not looking broken, when she left John's house that morning.


Could have sworn that video was recorded in night camera mode. Sure it was in color?

nm Boosie screenshoted it (in color )
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:13 am
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:18 am to
the judge just powered through mislabeled evidence
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:20 am to
Yup.

Why don't you think Proctor will be called by the defense? I'd imagine a fired cop/lead investigator on this very case doing shady things would be a boon to the defense.
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:24 am to
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Why don't you think Proctor will be called by the defense? I'd imagine a fired cop/lead investigator on this very case doing shady things would be a boon to the defense.


has the commonwealth said they don't intend to call Proctor?

If the defense calls Proctor Hank would be able cross him. Maybe they don't want to allow that.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:25 am to
Proctor is getting called by the defense if he doesn't by the CW. 100%
Posted by LSBoosie
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:28 am to
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has the commonwealth said they don't intend to call Proctor?

I haven't seen it confirmed but I've seen more and more speculation that they might not call him. It would definitely be easier for the commonwealth to cross instead of direct. I also wonder if the defense would consider using that as a point in closing. Something to the effect of "don't you think it's strange that the lead investigator who has since been fired was never even called to testify by the commonweath?" However I guess they can still make that argument even if the defense decides to call him. Would they have to call him in order to introduce the texts as evidence?
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:30 am
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:28 am to
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Proctor is getting called by the defense if he doesn't by the CW. 100%


yea probably so. I was just trying to give a reason why maybe they wouldn't want to call him.

I'm sure they want to get his text messages read in court.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:30 am to
They "excavated" the bare ground apparently. Jesus, it's right on the grass with no snow.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:32 am to
He was the lead investigator on this case and was fired for his malfeasance for how it was handled (including the texts). They are going o hammer him.

We'll see if Brennan has the balls to call him and try to mitigate that in their case in chief. I doubt it.
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:04 am to
Why are you no longer working with Mr. Proctor, Buchenick? hmmmmmm
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:21 am to
They just showed the ring video of Karen leaving and that passenger side tail light is not destroyed at that point. It's obviously still red.

I also love the implication from the Commonwealth that Karen deleted the ring camera footage of her coming home at 12:36. Why would she do that? It doesn't make sense.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:30 am to
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They just showed the ring video of Karen leaving and that passenger side tail light is not destroyed at that point. It's obviously still red.



This is what solidifies “not guilty” for me. How can anyone convict?
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:33 am to
To me, it's very clear she hit the car behind. You can see a slight shift in the 2nd car once hit.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:40 am to
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To me, it's very clear she hit the car behind. You can see a slight shift in the 2nd car once hit

She absolutely did. When the defense plays that and zooms in you will even see something fall.

Also the tow truck video showing "white" tail light is laughable. There was a whole lot of red in that video.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:44 am to
I think Turtleboy is a POS but this tweet of his shows the tail light has only a small break which happened by hitting John's car.

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This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 11:45 am
Posted by civiltiger07
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:19 pm to
this trooper is gaslighting the jury. He said the taillight was white. Maybe he is color blind but I saw red.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:05 pm to
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this might be a mistrial today
I've been out of town for work. What happened?
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:08 pm to
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I've been out of town for work. What happened?



Presented a right shoe as "left shoe" evidence for starters. Ukrainian bro cop is clearly color blind and can't differentiate between red and white. I believe Civil was joking about the mistrial
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:58 pm to
Any thoughts on the Bukhenik cross? He’s quite a piece of work.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:00 pm to
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Any thoughts on the Bukhenik cross? He’s quite a piece of work.



Dude is getting his arse kicked left and right. Trying to put distance between himself and Proctor and it's not working.......at all

100% coached to say (repeatedly) "muh it points to one person and one person only". And he keeps refering to KR as "the defendant" instead of KR which speaks volumes as well.
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