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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:30 am to morganwadefan
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:30 am to morganwadefan
Here's the interview with Juror #11. The 2nd juror to talk about the case intelligently.
Let’s start off with the most important question. Did you think Karen Read killed John O’Keefe, and when did you come to that conclusion?
To be absolutely honest, on the first day of trial, as I observed Karen’s demeanor in court, I was very suspicious. It felt like she was hiding something. Her confidence gave off an impression of arrogance. Over time, I came to understand that I was looking at a woman who had already lost so much. The fact that she was able to remain calm, composed, and actively involved in her own defense became something I admired.
I had doubts, of course. I was initially inclined to find her guilty—at least of manslaughter. But the more holes we saw in the case, the less I believed she was responsible for John’s death. For the past three weeks or so, I became increasingly comfortable in saying: she did not kill him.
Did you feel that the judge favored either side in this trial?
I wouldn’t say “favored,” but especially during the defense’s case, I noticed a lot more of “I’ll allow it” being said right after objections from the defense. I understand that certain words or facts can’t be introduced, and sometimes attorneys try to get something in by asking questions they know will be objected to. Still, Dr. Russell, for example, was hard to follow due to the constant sustained objections from the Commonwealth.
Who was the most memorable witness in this trial?
For me, Mr. Yuri Bukhenik. Because I was seated in the first row, I could see him clenching his fists a few times—it was very tense. ARCCA was memorable for different reasons; they made a lot of the technical information finally make sense to me.
Did you believe the injuries to John O’Keefe’s arm were caused by a dog?
Yes—and I actually have my own theory about the dog’s role in his death. I don’t see those injuries coming from a taillight at all. Plus, the lack of more injuries on his body made it really hard to believe a collision occurred.
Did you know that the ARCCA witnesses were first contacted by the FBI?
No. I only assumed it was the FBI after one of the witnesses before ARCCA mentioned “another agency.”
What did you think of the video clips of Karen speaking in those documentaries?
I think she wanted to speak her truth without having to go on the stand. Those interviews gave her better control of the narrative. I also think it was a strategic move by her defense. Her alcohol use was an undeniable fact—it was better for her to address it herself.
Did you feel like convicting Karen of the OUI was the right thing, or did you feel like you had to convict her of something?
Absolutely not. The OUI was the only charge I strongly believe the Commonwealth proved. She said in several interviews, “I was buzzed,” “I shouldn’t have driven,” “My alertness wasn’t where it should have been.” Once we determined that the videos were admissible, I couldn’t ignore that charge.
What witness did you trust the most?
I trusted the forensic scientists from the Massachusetts State Police Lab, like Maureen Hartnett and Tess Chart. They worked with what they were given. I also believe Dr. Laposata and Isaac Wolf were extremely knowledgeable and stated their findings truthfully.
What witness did you trust the least?
Officer Kelly Dever—her behavior in court made me question whether it’s safe for someone who acts like that to be carrying a gun among civilians.
How hard was it for you to be part of this jury for so long? How were you able to do it every day?
I have four young children under my care, and I work from home on a contract basis. I don’t have a large workload because I’m their primary caregiver. It was fairly easy to manage their care with my husband and my extended family. I asked my father to help out as well and he came from Brazil to spend some time with us. Having this part taken care of, I was actually very happy to be part of this process. Did not mind leave the house every day to “help the judge” as my kids would say. Once I got into the routine of going to the courthouse every day, I honestly felt like I was reliving my old life as an attorney before I had kids.
It made me think seriously about studying and learning more about American law—maybe even working in the legal field again. It wasn’t a burden at all, except for deliberation day, when I felt extremely stressed and overwhelmed by the weight of our responsibility.
What is something you would want everyone to know about this case or trial?
I think I’d want to speak directly to the O’Keefe family. I was the juror who left the courtroom in tears—and it wasn’t because justice had been served for Karen Read, though I was happy for her and her family. I cried for Mrs. O’Keefe, Paul, and everyone in John’s family. They did not get the justice they deserve.
I understand they might not want to hear from any of us, but I want to make it clear that our duty was only to determine whether there was reasonable doubt. If there’s any chance that Karen Read was responsible for John’s death, then the blame lies with the sloppy investigation that made it impossible to connect her to his tragic passing.
We didn’t fail the O’Keefes. The Commonwealth did. The police did.
Personally, I believe she is 100% innocent. But even for those jurors who still had doubts, none of us could say—beyond a reasonable doubt—that she did it.
To Karen Read’s supporters and advocates: please keep pressuring the DA. Keep standing against corruption. And above all, I hope we can still achieve justice for John O’Keefe.
Let’s start off with the most important question. Did you think Karen Read killed John O’Keefe, and when did you come to that conclusion?
To be absolutely honest, on the first day of trial, as I observed Karen’s demeanor in court, I was very suspicious. It felt like she was hiding something. Her confidence gave off an impression of arrogance. Over time, I came to understand that I was looking at a woman who had already lost so much. The fact that she was able to remain calm, composed, and actively involved in her own defense became something I admired.
I had doubts, of course. I was initially inclined to find her guilty—at least of manslaughter. But the more holes we saw in the case, the less I believed she was responsible for John’s death. For the past three weeks or so, I became increasingly comfortable in saying: she did not kill him.
Did you feel that the judge favored either side in this trial?
I wouldn’t say “favored,” but especially during the defense’s case, I noticed a lot more of “I’ll allow it” being said right after objections from the defense. I understand that certain words or facts can’t be introduced, and sometimes attorneys try to get something in by asking questions they know will be objected to. Still, Dr. Russell, for example, was hard to follow due to the constant sustained objections from the Commonwealth.
Who was the most memorable witness in this trial?
For me, Mr. Yuri Bukhenik. Because I was seated in the first row, I could see him clenching his fists a few times—it was very tense. ARCCA was memorable for different reasons; they made a lot of the technical information finally make sense to me.
Did you believe the injuries to John O’Keefe’s arm were caused by a dog?
Yes—and I actually have my own theory about the dog’s role in his death. I don’t see those injuries coming from a taillight at all. Plus, the lack of more injuries on his body made it really hard to believe a collision occurred.
Did you know that the ARCCA witnesses were first contacted by the FBI?
No. I only assumed it was the FBI after one of the witnesses before ARCCA mentioned “another agency.”
What did you think of the video clips of Karen speaking in those documentaries?
I think she wanted to speak her truth without having to go on the stand. Those interviews gave her better control of the narrative. I also think it was a strategic move by her defense. Her alcohol use was an undeniable fact—it was better for her to address it herself.
Did you feel like convicting Karen of the OUI was the right thing, or did you feel like you had to convict her of something?
Absolutely not. The OUI was the only charge I strongly believe the Commonwealth proved. She said in several interviews, “I was buzzed,” “I shouldn’t have driven,” “My alertness wasn’t where it should have been.” Once we determined that the videos were admissible, I couldn’t ignore that charge.
What witness did you trust the most?
I trusted the forensic scientists from the Massachusetts State Police Lab, like Maureen Hartnett and Tess Chart. They worked with what they were given. I also believe Dr. Laposata and Isaac Wolf were extremely knowledgeable and stated their findings truthfully.
What witness did you trust the least?
Officer Kelly Dever—her behavior in court made me question whether it’s safe for someone who acts like that to be carrying a gun among civilians.
How hard was it for you to be part of this jury for so long? How were you able to do it every day?
I have four young children under my care, and I work from home on a contract basis. I don’t have a large workload because I’m their primary caregiver. It was fairly easy to manage their care with my husband and my extended family. I asked my father to help out as well and he came from Brazil to spend some time with us. Having this part taken care of, I was actually very happy to be part of this process. Did not mind leave the house every day to “help the judge” as my kids would say. Once I got into the routine of going to the courthouse every day, I honestly felt like I was reliving my old life as an attorney before I had kids.
It made me think seriously about studying and learning more about American law—maybe even working in the legal field again. It wasn’t a burden at all, except for deliberation day, when I felt extremely stressed and overwhelmed by the weight of our responsibility.
What is something you would want everyone to know about this case or trial?
I think I’d want to speak directly to the O’Keefe family. I was the juror who left the courtroom in tears—and it wasn’t because justice had been served for Karen Read, though I was happy for her and her family. I cried for Mrs. O’Keefe, Paul, and everyone in John’s family. They did not get the justice they deserve.
I understand they might not want to hear from any of us, but I want to make it clear that our duty was only to determine whether there was reasonable doubt. If there’s any chance that Karen Read was responsible for John’s death, then the blame lies with the sloppy investigation that made it impossible to connect her to his tragic passing.
We didn’t fail the O’Keefes. The Commonwealth did. The police did.
Personally, I believe she is 100% innocent. But even for those jurors who still had doubts, none of us could say—beyond a reasonable doubt—that she did it.
To Karen Read’s supporters and advocates: please keep pressuring the DA. Keep standing against corruption. And above all, I hope we can still achieve justice for John O’Keefe.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:39 am to Gris Gris
quote:
I understand they might not want to hear from any of us, but I want to make it clear that our duty was only to determine whether there was reasonable doubt. If there’s any chance that Karen Read was responsible for John’s death, then the blame lies with the sloppy investigation that made it impossible to connect her to his tragic passing.
We didn’t fail the O’Keefes. The Commonwealth did. The police did.

Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:39 am to Gris Gris
The McAlberts did an interview with ABC. That is a choice
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:55 am to Gris Gris
quote:
What witness did you trust the least?
Officer Kelly Dever—her behavior in court made me question whether it’s safe for someone who acts like that to be carrying a gun among civilians.
Damn
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:04 am to civiltiger07
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The McAlberts did an interview with ABC. That is a choice
I just watched it and it is something.
Runkle of the Bailey, on Youtube, has the very first interview with Alessi and Yanetti tonight at 7:30 ET if anyone is interested. LINK
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:07 am to No Colors
At the risk of sounding corny, this juror makes me proud to be an American. She’s an immigrant who was an attorney in her home country, she treated this with the weight it deserves and was grateful for the opportunity. She was insightful, and actually picked up on a lot of what we were seeing in the world outside the court room.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:08 am to idlewatcher
I really don't know if they can go after the Alberts or the Higgins. They screwed this investigation up so badly that the evidence they could have gathered when this all happened is long gone! The neighbors ring doorbell camera footage is lost forever. Also the home was sold and the basement was updated 2 times, which I would assume was done to completely erase any evidence. If that is the case, the only thing that could happen is one of the family decides they want to confess, which I don't see ever happening. This whole situation is truly so sad because, if the police had done their jobs initially, we wouldn't be in this situation. If they had executed a search warrant on the house, taken the neighbors ring doorbell footage, etc. we may actually be able to know what happened and actually hold someone responsible. As it stands now, I just don't see that happening.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:10 am to CalLSU
And the craziest thing to me is that for all we know it could have been an accident where no one faced major charges but instead they made it into this enormous production.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:12 am to Gris Gris
quote:
I understand they might not want to hear from any of us, but I want to make it clear that our duty was only to determine whether there was reasonable doubt. If there’s any chance that Karen Read was responsible for John’s death, then the blame lies with the sloppy investigation that made it impossible to connect her to his tragic passing.
We didn’t fail the O’Keefes. The Commonwealth did. The police did.
Completely agree with that juror. This whole thing was handled so poorly that the O'Keefe family will more than likely NEVER get any true closure on what happened! How the police never went into the home, got a search warrant, checked the ring doorbell camera from accross the street, etc. will always be something that truly puzzles me! There was such a preponderance of reasonable doubt in this case that no jury that actually paid attention was ever going to return a verdict that looked any different than what this jury did. The commonwealth, as well as that Judge, should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen!
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:19 am to CalLSU
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The commonwealth, as well as that Judge, should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen!
They should be sued for violation of her civil rights to a fair trial. In the interview with AJ, he stated he was 49/49 for sustaining of objections against the defense. What kind of zoo shite is that?
That in itself would warrant a thorough investigation.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:28 am to CalLSU
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How the police never went into the home, got a search warrant, checked the ring doorbell camera from accross the street
That's the other thing. You can bet your arse the homeowner across the street did. And if he saw Karen hit John you know it would have been turned over.
Hell if someone dies across the street from my house, of course I'd watch the footage to see when and how it happened.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:38 am to Gris Gris
I didn't follow the trial, first time posting in this thread. I have watched the documentaries and Datelines that are out there. Saw she was found not guilty so wanted to see the reaction of the board.
Reading that jurors comments alone tells me almost all I need to know if they made the right decision or not. That is a very intelligent and balanced juror. Some powerful stuff in that interview wow.
Reading that jurors comments alone tells me almost all I need to know if they made the right decision or not. That is a very intelligent and balanced juror. Some powerful stuff in that interview wow.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 2:47 pm to The Third Leg
quote:Are you saying this juror's intelligence level isn't all that good?
Everyone should watch that Juror interview, then realize a jury is made of people at or below his intelligence level.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 2:53 pm to Gris Gris
She was on GMA.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 6/20/25 at 3:05 pm to iwyLSUiwy
From the Mass State Police
quote:
The Massachusetts State Police issued a statement on Thursday, offering up their condolences to the family and loved ones of O'Keefe. "The events of the last three years have challenged our Department to thoroughly review our actions and take concrete steps to deliver advanced interrogation training, ensure appropriate oversight, and enhance accountability," the statement said. "Under my direction as Colonel, the State Police has, and will continue to, improve in these regards. Our focus remains on delivering excellent police services that reflect the value of professionalism and maintain public trust."
Posted on 6/20/25 at 3:51 pm to JDPndahizzy
Not a single mention of the mistreatment of KR smh
Seems like OJO’s family are suing the wrong person. Should be Proctor personally, MSP, Canton PD and the Albert and McCabe families and leave KR out of it.
But muh policccce
Seems like OJO’s family are suing the wrong person. Should be Proctor personally, MSP, Canton PD and the Albert and McCabe families and leave KR out of it.
But muh policccce
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:12 pm to idlewatcher
Alessi and yannetti are on with Runkle of the Bailey.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:00 pm to civiltiger07
Bob and David are telling some interesting stories. Namely about the hearing where Brennan was trying to get Karen’s communications without her lawyers knowing. This seems really slimy.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:21 pm to jclem11
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and lament the cruel reality that this prosecution was infected by lies and conspiracy theories spread by Karen Read, her defense team, and some in the media.
I can't think of one instance where this would apply. They were able to prove every claim they made. What a hag..
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:51 am to civiltiger07
quote:
Bob and David are telling some interesting stories. Namely about the hearing where Brennan was trying to get Karen’s communications without her lawyers knowing. This seems really slimy.
He is a slimy douche!
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