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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:29 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:29 pm to The Pirate King
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So confirming your theory, you think that there's a mass conspiracy of multiple policemen having killed or witnessed this cop accidentally be killed, all framing his girlfriend, and the whole system being in on it? And all of this remaining hidden for years? And not one peep of this conspiracy from any of the co-conspirators?
First of all, I have no idea what happened. I don’t think anyone does except for those that were there that night. That’s due to the bad police work that took place. I’m not sure what you mean by the “whole system” being in on it.
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The physical evidence of the broken tail light, and her car reversing at high speed close to where his body was found before she drove off, is irrelevant? What slightly buzzed, loving significant other would just take off after a few minutes of waiting for him to come back? She even admitted after they found him that she could have hit him with the car.
I don’t think it’s irrelevant, but I don’t think it proves anything either. Which is what they have to do. If you think the prosecution proved it, are you saying that the company that was hired by the FBI and came to the conclusion that he wasn’t hit by a car is wrong? What about the medical professionals that say his injuries don’t match up to that of a person that was hit by a car? Is all of that irrelevant?
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:51 pm to The Pirate King
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The physical evidence of the broken tail light,
Do you believe that the abrasions on John's arm is consistent wiyh bring struck by the taillight of the Lexus?
Also, do you believe that the lack of ANY other physical harm done by the vehicle impact is consistent with being struck by the Lexus? No broken bones, no dislocations, no ligament or tendon strains or tears, no bruising whatsoever.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:02 am to The Pirate King
quote:Are you stupid? It wasn't the defense's job to prove who did it. It was only their job to prove Karen Read DIDN'T do it.
The fact remains that no believable substitute theory for O'Keefe's death was ever put forth by the defense.
To find that out who did it they'd have to open up the investigation again. Oh wait, there wasn't any real investigation and it's too late now to start one anyway.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:03 am to Tigers4Lyfe
quote:Besides, they were not allowed to by the judge. They could not even proffer it. We really should not respond to that guy.
It wasn't the defense's job to prove who did it.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:05 am to The Pirate King
quote:It's as if an animal attack couldn't make someone who has been out drinking all night fall and hit their head
Well the other guy says it was clearly an animal attack, which is a wildly different event. Seems like there's no clear consensus.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:22 am to The Pirate King
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The physical evidence of the broken tail light, and her car reversing at high speed close to where his body was found before she drove off, is irrelevant?
The only evidence that the reverse event recorded on the Lexus teschstream actually occurred in front of 34 Fairview came from Shanon Burgess. The techstream data does include time and date stamps that tell you exactly when the event happened. In order to figure out exactly when the reverse event occurred you have to link other events with known time and date stamps, and this was performed by Mr. Burgess. Then you have to assess how much you believe in Mr. Burgess' ability to accurately perform this. Well I won't speak for everyone but I do not believe that Burgess was accurate. Much of Apertures "testing" started with a conclusion and sought to prove the conclusion.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:28 am to The Pirate King
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So confirming your theory, you think that there's a mass conspiracy of multiple policemen having killed or witnessed this cop accidentally be killed, all framing his girlfriend, and the whole system being in on it?
A handful of people isn't really a mass conspiracy, but there is some pretty interesting circumstantial evidence of just that.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:45 am to jchamil
quote:Not to mention those questionable individuals are a tight group of friends.
A handful of people isn't really a mass conspiracy, but there is some pretty interesting circumstantial evidence of just that.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 6:27 am to Tigers4Lyfe
Officer Barros, Dighton Cop, did an interview yesterday. He stated that the DA did not show him a picture of the taillight and ask if that was the condition the taillight was in when he arrived at Karen's Patent's house.
Between the ARCCA testimony that the damage to the taillight is not consistent with a pedestrian strike and this testimony from a cop that saw the taillight and said it is not in the condition seen now. This is actual evidence that the taillight was broken after the Lexus was confiscated and taillight pieces were planted by someone.
Between the ARCCA testimony that the damage to the taillight is not consistent with a pedestrian strike and this testimony from a cop that saw the taillight and said it is not in the condition seen now. This is actual evidence that the taillight was broken after the Lexus was confiscated and taillight pieces were planted by someone.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 6:43 am to civiltiger07
Yes he testified to this in trial.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 6:50 am to Saintsisit
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Yes he testified to this in trial.
Of course but now we know that the Prosecutor knew he wouldn't agree that the taillight that we currently see is in the same condition he witnessed on Jan. 29th 2022.
Lally should face discipline for this and the discipline he deserves is being disbarred.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:07 am to The Pirate King
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Yeah champ there's zero evidence of this.
Yeah okay.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:13 am to jchamil
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A handful of people isn't really a mass conspiracy,
It is not a conspiracy, a handful of idiots who think they are some kind of local kingpin band of untouchables screwed up.
They had a plan A, but no plan B when their idiot nephew went too far because he is a bit of a psycho.
This and there just happened to be a second level of idiots who were there when sh!t hit the fan that were even dumber. They did things like google searches.
Then they had relatives who were not there who were brought into the fold who now had to add to the lying.
This reminds me of the Charles Stuart case of two black guys shot me and my pregnant wife in mission hill. The media ran with that one too but within hours of the investigations the facts did not add up and eventually the other idiots who knew could not keep the story together. The only difference was Stuart was not a bad cop. He was an idiot schmuck from Revere.
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:08 am to winkchance
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:09 am to JDPndahizzy
There's tons of interviews and commentary and I've been listening to a lot of them
Posted on 6/25/25 at 5:52 pm to The Pirate King
You obviously didn’t watch any of the trial if you don’t know what the expert witnesses said during their testimonies.
Every single witness for the prosecution and defense said no evidence he died from a car hitting him. They said injuries weren’t consistent.
And clearly those were dog bites on his atm. All one has to do is google dog attack on arm to see that.
And then there’s Gallagher admitting they broke the taillight in the Sallyport
During his testimony he says he allowed the canton police to remove and manipulate the tail light in the sallyport and that it broke during removal.
He literally testifies to this. Go to 2:47
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmqoV7xOx7g&t=1s&pp=2AEBkAIB
Every single witness for the prosecution and defense said no evidence he died from a car hitting him. They said injuries weren’t consistent.
And clearly those were dog bites on his atm. All one has to do is google dog attack on arm to see that.
And then there’s Gallagher admitting they broke the taillight in the Sallyport
During his testimony he says he allowed the canton police to remove and manipulate the tail light in the sallyport and that it broke during removal.
He literally testifies to this. Go to 2:47
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmqoV7xOx7g&t=1s&pp=2AEBkAIB
Posted on 7/2/25 at 1:04 pm to AlxTgr
Posted on 7/2/25 at 1:17 pm to OweO
Good for her.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:30 am to OweO
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:04 am to JDPndahizzy
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Jury Foreman interview
Wonder why he was chosen. Not the brightest guy to be repping the jury although he did say in a different interview that KR was innocent from day 1
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