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There is no correlation between recruiting rankings and success

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I think what you mean to say is recruiting rankings don't guarantee success. You would be correct. However, saying that there is no correlation is wrong. Let's take the current top 10 and just compare them to where they were ranked for the last 4 recruiting classes going backwards from 2025 and ending in 2022, per 247:
Ohio State - 4, 5, 5, 4
Indiana - not in top 25, not in top 25, not in top 25, 25
Georgia - 2, 1, 2, 3
Oregon - 5, 3, 8, 13
Texas Tech - not in top 25, 24, not ranked in top 25, not in top 25
Ole Miss - 16, 21, not ranked in top 25, not in top 25
Texas A&M - 9, 19, 15, 1
Oklahoma - 17, 8, 4, 8
Notre Dame - 12, 9, 10, 7
Alabama - 3, 2, 1, 2

So as you can see, of the top 10, only 3 of the teams had any seasons not ranked in the top 25. Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State had top 10 rankings every single year and of the 10, 7 were ranked in the top 25 every single year with all 7 being ranked in the top 20 every single year. Of course there will be outliers, I am thinking of LSU and Texas, who have consistently great recruiting classes but don't have near the success those classes would indicate. While it is not an exact, all the time correlation, this is a good indication of why teams like Georgia, Alabama, Notre Dame, OSU and Oregon are consistently in the top 10-15 every single year.

I'm not going to disparage the kid. Having said that, we need to move in a different direction. He is not what LSU needs in the future at that position and hopefully, Lane will bring or recruit a good QB to come in and give us the best chance at success next year!

Agree with this take. If he had busted his tail in the offseason and played like this. I would just say he isn’t good enough and at least gave it his all. However, it appears he didn’t do that. When he is being paid as much as he is and gave the effort he gave, he gets little to no sympathy. The other responsible parties have either been fired or will be at the end of the year. His lack of preparation was a major reason we are currently sitting at 5-4. He is now having to live in the mess he created by not preparing beforehand.

No not at all. I think he is a good coach but wouldn’t be excited about the hire.

OH NO!! Fans thought their new coach would win! What a shock!! How do you know we won't find anyone better than him? Do you think he is a great coach currently? Do you think he did a good enough job to still be the head coach at LSU? Also, what exactly makes you think Florida is a better program than LSU? Lets compare resume's of both schools:
Florida - 3 national championships (Last 2008). 8 SEC Titles. In this century, they are 214-106 and 127-73 in the SEC, not including this year as it is still ongoing.
LSU - 4 national championships (Last 2019). 12 SEC Titles. In this century, they are 242-82 and 136-64 in the SEC, not including this year as it is still ongoing.

So, looking at that, how exactly is Florida a better program than LSU?

I think it’s a two things can be true at the same time situation. I don’t think he got a fair shake this year with our o-line, OC, running game. That being said, he has made some really bad decisions with the ball this year that have nothing to do with anything previously mentioned. There have been reports that he didn’t train as hard in the off-season as Burrow (2019) and Daniels (2023) did and it has shown!

No! One of the best things Coach O did was get out of the way offensively and let those coaches do their thing. Kelly would meddle the mess out of that team!

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I'll say this, he had more talent than LSU last year - without question and he lost.

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That's a good point that you bring up. He clearly has issues, I would never say he is a homerun hire by any means. What I do believe is that he is a better head coach than we currently have. I do believe that he would be able to assemble a better team at LSU than he could at Ole Miss. I do understand that he has issues and seems to either get too caught up in the moment or just makes boneheaded mistakes at times that seem to cost his team a game every year. Having said all of that, I have to be realistic about what coach we could possibly hire at LSU. The coaches we would be able to get will come with either 1. issues, like Kiffin, or 2. inexperience. I personally would rather take Kiffin over someone with no experience being a head coach.

Here are Kiffins seasons at Ole Miss vs the same seasons at LSU along with where they finished ranked at the end of the season (the rankings are according to the AP Poll that made a final rankings after the bowl games/playoffs):
Ole Miss from 2020 through 2025
2020 - 5-5 - unranked
2021 - 10-3 - #11
2022 - 8-5 - unranked
2023 - 11-2 - #9
2024 - 10-3 - #11
2025 - 6-1 - #8
LSU from 2020-2025
2020 - 5-5 - unranked
2021 - 6-7 - unranked
2022 - 10-4 - #16
2023 - 10-3 - #12
2024 - 9-4 - unranked
2025 - 5-2 - #20

So, since Kiffin has been at Ole Miss, they are 50-17 and have ended the season ranked in the top 12 in 3 out of 5 seasons. If we had this same playoff format, they would have made the playoffs in 2 of 5 seasons. They finished top 11 last year but didn't make the playoffs as they were ranked #14, when the final pole came out to decide who would go to the playoffs, and were one of the last teams out. In that same time frame, LSU has gone 45-25 and have finished ranked 2 out of 5 seasons and wouldn't have made the playoffs in the current format one time! He is an elite recruiter and play caller and is having this much success at a school that is no where near as well-funded or having the in-state talent as Louisiana has compared to Mississippi, which is not bad but not near what Louisiana has produced. To think that a coach as good as Kiffin would have success at LSU when he has had as much success as he has had at Ole Miss isn't that hard to understand.

There nothing. He had about 10 other plays where he ran himself out of the play. He has ZERO awareness and ability to change directions. This causes him to overrun a play, which he did multiple times yesterday. Pavia had a great day, no doubt, we also helped him about as much as we could.