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re: Just watched a co worker get fired
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:55 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:55 am to The Pirate King
Pretty sure his department is 80-100k salary. I’ve seen one job posted for his position in my time here but it was for our North Carolina purchasing department so I am assuming pay is around the same
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:57 am to tigerinthebueche
obviously generalizations aren't perfect but in my experience hiring, training, and managing employees, millennials learn quicker and are good at finding the most efficient way of doing things....but older employees show up to work more consistently and appreciate the little things I did to help them do their jobs better.
I always kept a good mix of older and younger
I always kept a good mix of older and younger
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:04 pm to auzach91
If you work for a good employer, I am sure they spoke with this employee numerous times. They probably did some counseling, set timelines for improvement, restated expectations, ect.. Nobody enjoys firing anyone, and most employees know it is coming by the time it comes to termination.
If it happened abruptly, there is probably more to the story that you are not aware of.
If it happened abruptly, there is probably more to the story that you are not aware of.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:07 pm to auzach91
Why would you get paid 100k to buy stuff
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:07 pm to auzach91
If there is a back end pension or retirement plan. He can sue for age discrimination. And they usually win quite easily.
A lot of major companies refuse to fire people over 50 because it's cheaper to pay them to sit around and do a bullshite job than it is to win the lawsuit (or the costs are higher in the lawsuit).
Either way, if you like the guy, you may want to mention this as an option to pursue.
A lot of major companies refuse to fire people over 50 because it's cheaper to pay them to sit around and do a bullshite job than it is to win the lawsuit (or the costs are higher in the lawsuit).
Either way, if you like the guy, you may want to mention this as an option to pursue.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:07 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I'd much rather an oldster with experience than the millennial who doesn't know shite.
Do the work well, do it on time, and do it without requiring constant oversight. I don't care how old/young you are if you can do those things.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:08 pm to auzach91
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Pretty sure his department is 80-100k salary. I’ve seen one job posted for his position in my time here but it was for our North Carolina purchasing department so I am assuming pay is around the same
I just mean like is he getting more compensation for staying longer than the other people? Even if not, with that much time in, he was probably close to 100k, and they asked themselves why they should pay an inefficient worker 100k, when they could pay someone 80k to do the job in 9 hours a day.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:11 pm to The Pirate King
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Even if not, with that much time in, he was probably close to 100k, and they asked themselves why they should pay an inefficient worker 100k, when they could pay someone 80k to do the job in 9 hours a day.
Yeah, I'd imagine his long hours put a strain on others who may have been hourly.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:13 pm to slackster
Also if he's even occasionally part of a team it's a pain when one team member takes twice as long to get their shite done.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:14 pm to robertLSU
yeah, there are 3 of them in purchasing and they did have to wait for him to do his portion quite often so that probably did play in to it.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:18 pm to Swoopin
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You have a lot less flexibility with someone who takes longer to do currently assigned work. It basically means his bandwidth is severely limited and in crunch time you can't expect to get anything extra out of that employee. I do feel bad for him, but he was clearly in over his head and doesn't compare favorably to others, the way you've described it.
He may be the type person that is incapable of doing anything less than impeccable work no matter how long it takes. He is mentally incapable of just doing the minimum that is acceptable to complete the job, an attribute that could be invaluable is some other job, but maybe not this one.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:22 pm to auzach91
kinda expected if you are that slow at your job. sounds like being a nice guy is the only reason he lasted that long. 
maybe 40 years ago loyalty and hard work meant something but they dont any more, in fact, most companies will fire you for no reason at all, no matter how good and productive you are, just to save from letting you reach a time earned benefit package.
maybe 40 years ago loyalty and hard work meant something but they dont any more, in fact, most companies will fire you for no reason at all, no matter how good and productive you are, just to save from letting you reach a time earned benefit package.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:23 pm to el Gaucho
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Why would you get paid 100k to buy stuff
Skilled talent negotiates prices and contracts. Valuable asset.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:26 pm to auzach91
At his age and tenure...the company had better have all the T's crossed and I's dotted
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:27 pm to tigerinthebueche
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As much as older employees bitch about millennials, most of them are slow as frick and cost more than they're worth.
Hahaha, I have seen 55 and 60 year old people work circles around millennials. Age has nothing to do with most jobs, it is work ethic.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:28 pm to EA6B
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He is mentally incapable of just doing the minimum that is acceptable to complete the job, an attribute that could be invaluable is some other job, but maybe not this one.
I agree. It's not always an asset, can sometimes be a liability.
I struggle myself sometimes with letting the little stuff go and rolling the dice on what is doable in a shorter amount of time. But I'm aware of the need to try, this guy at 55 apparently wasn't.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:29 pm to keakar
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in fact, most companies will fire you for no reason at all, no matter how good and productive you are, just to save from letting you reach a time earned benefit package.
This doesn't happen unless their industry is in a free-fall.
Loyalty is overrated, but turning out a good product is as valuable now as it's ever been.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:34 pm to auzach91
That sucks for him. If it were a chick she could #me too and maybe get a $ settlement. A 55 yr old baw is screwed tho. You can show support off the job, but in the work place stay out of it. You rock the boat too much you could be next not to go.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:37 pm to BrohemAlem11
Everyone doesnt "clock in", Scott.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:41 pm to slackster
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Do the work well, do it on time, and do it without requiring constant oversight. I don't care how old/young you are if you can do those things.
agreed
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