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re: Just a thought - The Immaculate Conception
Posted on 12/14/23 at 5:55 pm to liz18lsu
Posted on 12/14/23 at 5:55 pm to liz18lsu
This isn’t the place for a question like this if you really believe or are really wanting to understand. Not because you can’t or won’t get the answer. But because you incite people to express their most disgusting thoughts often blaspheming which is detrimental to their souls. Some people cannot help themselves- they may not be fully culpable- yet it is still a wound.
Catholic Answers or Word on Fire are ministries that can clearly answer your questions.
Blessings.
Catholic Answers or Word on Fire are ministries that can clearly answer your questions.
Blessings.
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 5:56 pm to liz18lsu
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I think it means it is more pain than you could endure.
Unless you die from pain, you obviously endured it.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 5:56 pm to MeridianDog
quote:what? No, just no. No one has just felt pressure unless u get an epidural. Without one u feel EVERYTHING.
Some women feel only a slight pressure and then just drop the baby out. She may have been one of thos
Posted on 12/14/23 at 5:57 pm to liz18lsu
Because Pope Pius said so? Sheesh
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:01 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:What authority established the chapters and verses?
Chapter and verse?
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:03 pm to bgtiger
My wife who is a staunch Catholic said she’s never heard of this. Mary was a person, not a God. If Jesus felt pain I’m sure Mary did too. Not sure where that Pope in 1100 got that from?
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:03 pm to Ingeniero
Well of Alexander said it almost 1100 years later, then it must be
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:08 pm to liz18lsu
In an ironic twist, God sent her a doula, which we know in Greek translates to slave. It was either that or a Caesarean, which would also be a God prank.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:09 pm to Cycledude
The idea is that the pain of childbirth is punishment for original sin. If Mary was born without original sin (that is, the Immaculate Conception) then logically she would have no pain giving birth.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:12 pm to Cycledude
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My wife who is a staunch Catholic said she’s never heard of this.
Then she's not a very staunch Catholic, or she's just not that smart. I'm not saying that she has to believe it.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:14 pm to Ponchy Tiger
A woman in labor experiences almost as much pain as a man with a cold.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:14 pm to Ingeniero
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Mary was born without original sin (that is, the Immaculate Conception) then logically she would have no pain giving birth.
Maybe Mary’s mother lied to her.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:14 pm to Cycledude
quote:It's a common belief in Catholicism.
My wife who is a staunch Catholic said she’s never heard of this.
quote:The idea is that Mary was exempt from the pain of childbirth, which was a punishment on Eve and women thereafter. It's not taught that Mary was exempt from pain in general.
If Jesus felt pain I’m sure Mary did too.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:21 pm to Tigerinasia
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This isn’t the place for a question like this if you really believe or are really wanting to understand. Not because you can’t or won’t get the answer. But because you incite people to express their most disgusting thoughts often blaspheming which is detrimental to their souls. Some people cannot help themselves- they may not be fully culpable- yet it is still a wound.
Let's not pretend some heavy shite wasn't just dropped here on the collective conscience of the OT.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:34 pm to liz18lsu
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The Immaculate Concepcion
Dave or Onix?
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:36 pm to Cycledude
Mary was a human sinner like the rest of us. Of course she had pain it was childbirth.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:38 pm to liz18lsu
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Just a thought - The Immaculate Concepcion
Did you misspell reception?
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:41 pm to Ingeniero
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[Mary,] indeed conceived without shame, gave birth without pain, and went hence without corruption, according to the word of the angel, or rather [the word] of God through the angel, so that she should be proved to be full, not merely half filled, with grace and [so that] God her son should faithfully fulfill the ancient commandment that he had formerly given, namely, to treat one’s father and mother with honor.
This is ridiculous.
And frankly, I’m not sure why it even matters.
My 2 cents however, Mary, being human and a sinner, experienced all the same pains and uncomfortableness in pregnancy and childbirth as any other woman. Christ, being fully man, experienced all the pains that men feel as well.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:42 pm to Ingeniero
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If Mary was born without original sin (that is, the Immaculate Conception) then logically she would have no pain giving birth.
This is ridiculous at face value though.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:43 pm to Clark W Griswold
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Mary was a human sinner like the rest of us. Of course she had pain it was childbirth.
Wrong on so many levels I don’t even know where to begin.
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