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re: Johnson & Johnson vaccine paused due to clotting concerns
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:15 am to Michael T. Tiger
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:15 am to Michael T. Tiger
I had the Janssen 2 weeks ago. Thankfully my blood is treated with anticoagulant bourbon.
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:15 am to Cossatotjoe
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You have three vaccines. Two permanently alter your genetic makeup. One does not. I predicted that there would start being bad press about the one that doesn’t and that they would stop letting us take that one. It happened.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:16 am to lsunurse
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Me and you were thinking the same thing
considering we are the only two healthcare professionals, more than likely, in this thread, and everyone else is just talking out of their arse/spreading bullshite they heard on the favorite brand of news, it's not entirely surprising that we arrived at the same conclusion....
hope all is well, ma'am...
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:16 am to lsunurse
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Some are posting in this thread(those that think the mRNA vaccine permanently alters your genetic code...wow...how fricking dumb do you have to be to believe that??)
Trying to argue with them is futile. It’s like trying to debate a brick fricking wall. Or a liberal.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:16 am to Sao
Bourbon is the cure for everything. Kudos for taking your health seriously.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:17 am to Cossatotjoe
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I predicted this on another board. The J&J vaccine is the traditional vaccine. They don’t want you taking that one. They want you to take the mRNA vaccines. Hence, all the bad press lately and now this after a mere handful of problems compared to the other two.
Tin foil hat is on tight this morning, eh?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:17 am to Michael T. Tiger
Ok I signed up for the J&J vaccine yesterday. Assuming that is still allowed to take place on Thursday, I assume I have no concerns since I'm a 36 year old man with no health issues.
Seems like quite an overreaction
Seems like quite an overreaction
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:17 am to Cossatotjoe
Proteins aren’t inheritable.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:18 am to TDsngumbo
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It’s mind boggling that people this dumb exist and claim to be smart.
It's the Dunning–Kruger effect. Paradoxically, I am guilty of it by merely pointing out Dunning-Kruger.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:18 am to Cossatotjoe
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The fact is the mRNA vaccines instruct the cells to build a spike protein that was not there before and in and of itself has no relation to Covid. This protein remains and there is some research that believes it is inheritable. Is that permanent genetic modification? I guess it is semantics. But you, and possibly your offspring, will now have a particular spiked protein that you didn’t have before made on instructions received in a mRNA vaccine instead of an immune response to an accentuated virus.
Do you know how virus work? The inject rna into your cells with instructions to make more of the virus
This just instructs your body to make the spike protein part of the virus and then your immune system nukes it
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:18 am to chRxis
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considering we are the only two healthcare professionals, more than likely, in this thread, and everyone else is just talking out of their arse/spreading bullshite they heard on the favorite brand of news, it's not entirely surprising that we arrived at the same conclusion....
Who the frick is everyone? 2, 3 posters?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:18 am to Michael T. Tiger
6 out of 6.8 million? Hmmm that's only %0.00000088 chance you get a clot. I'll take those odds any day! I bet you'd get the same or greater with placebo.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:18 am to High C
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These vaccines are completely safe, and if you don’t believe that, you’re a backwoods simp.
Please tell me how you know this? Do you understand the definition of completely? or Safe?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:19 am to Cossatotjoe
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. In Europe, they’ve banned the Moderna vaccine for the alleged same reason as they just stopped the J&J vaccine.
Come again? Moderna is banned?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:19 am to chRxis
Just say the 6 women were really fat, then they won’t care
That’s how it was with COVID deaths with these folks...their death from COVID doesn’t matter if person was big.
That’s how it was with COVID deaths with these folks...their death from COVID doesn’t matter if person was big.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:19 am to Oilfieldbiology
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The people lumping everyone that laments the governments ham-handed, draconian measures into the same group that doesn’t trust the vaccine are almost as melodramatic and simple as the vaccines alter your DNA crowd
That’s how it works. There’s hardly ever any middle ground with anything anymore. Just reading this thread for the lulz from both sides
I’m young and healthy so I don’t have to worry about the China virus or effects of the vaccine. RIP and prayers to all of y’all.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:19 am to Oilfieldbiology
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222/34,000,000=0.00065294% or 1 in 170,000. To put this in college football terms, if you had a packed William Bryce Stadium and a packed Jordan Hare Stadium and everyone got the J&J vaccine, the odds say 1 person would have blood clots from it.
Not saying there aren’t more people with these side effects and that we don’t need to study why these side effects occurred, but that’s a very low percentage
Is that even outside the threshold of normal amount of people that get blood clots? Seems hard to make that statistically relevant.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:20 am to Cossatotjoe
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I guess it is semantics.
Nope, not semantics at all. It's a fact that the vaccine does not alter one's genetic code. Cluelessness is not excused by claiming semantics.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:20 am to Buckeye06
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Ok I signed up for the J&J vaccine yesterday. Assuming that is still allowed to take place on Thursday, I assume I have no concerns since I'm a 36 year old man with no health issues.
Seems like quite an overreaction
Take it. If something happens to us, Rummy will start a Go Fund Me and we'll be livin' like princes.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:21 am to Cossatotjoe
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In Europe, they’ve banned the Moderna vaccine for the alleged same reason as they just stopped the J&J vaccine.
Except Moderna hasn't been discontinued anywhere I'm aware of. You're thinking of the Astra-Zeneca, which is a traditional vaccine similar to Johnson and Johnsons.
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