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re: Its amazing how well NY and the northeast handled Covid. They are the gold standard
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:34 am to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:34 am to Boomshockalocka
Yeah but you missed the details behind your attempt at a "gotcha". You missed the fine print.
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Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:36 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Restaurants been open for outside dining only for just a few weeks now.
Yea but not house arrest
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The same with beaches
His beach has been open since before memorial day weekend (Spring Lake)
All the stores are open and what not too (haircuts etc)
He goes down every weekend and doesn't complain anymore.
Where in NJ are you? Spring Lake is fricking awesome.
His house is great. Going down this weekend.
I'd love to live there but that commute is brutal.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:39 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:37 am to RealityTiger
No i didn’t. He said they were “done”. Couldn’t be further from the truth.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:39 am to Boomshockalocka
Whatever man. Take the "L". 
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:46 am to lsupride87
HVAC systems causing rapid spread of the virus in the south.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:46 am to IAmNERD
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I understand all that. I guess my question should've been does anyone with a working set of eyes and ears really believe that Cuomo did a fantastic job of protecting the citizens of NY? Do people ACTUALLY believe that?
Yes, they do. I was told it simply wasn't true that New York had one of the worst outcomes in the world, were doing well now because the virus hadn't run its course (because they had effective mitigation), and that Texas had flattened their curve from the beginning over the weekend, despite my evidence to the contrary.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 8:20 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:47 am to I Bleed Garnet
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Where in NJ are you? Spring Lake is fricking awesome. His house is great. I'd love to live there but that commute is brutal.
We live outside Trenton, maybe 15 or 20 minutes from Princeton. Basically an hour west of your buddy in Spring Lake. But everywhere in NJ is an hour away from us, we're centrally located. One of the plusses of us moving up here was being able to hop on the train and be in the city in about an hour and a half for extracurriculars. Haven't been to the city since February. I just want a slice at Joe's, dammit.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:52 am to lsupride87
New York turned this around in the same way that a firefighter kills a fire by simply letting it burn the house down.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:53 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Haven't been to the city since February.
You work in the city?
My company really didn't do much of a WFH.
Kinda can't but they let the people in NJ and LI do it for some time until around May.
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I just want a slice at Joe's, dammit.
Joe's isn't the best
and if you want check out GoldBelly, a lot of the best places are on there (Roberta's DiFara etc)
It comes flash frozen but it's still great.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:54 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:54 am to Boomshockalocka
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Sweden now has the fifth-highest per capita death rate in the world with a larger death toll than all of its neighbours' combined.
this is to be expected given their course. we're still likely in the very early stages of dealing with CV-19
their neighbors took strong steps before spread hit but are exposed completely is no vaccine comes. the question is how long it will take for a vaccine to be developed (if one can ever be developed, which has never happened with a coronavirus in our history)
their neighbors can't afford to keep their society shut down for much longer and once it opens up, they will face spread without a vaccine. there is a point down the road where if a vaccine isn't developed, they will surpass Sweden's numbers (who took an early, large hit but will taper off and decrease over time dramatically). if the vaccine comes before that date, Sweden guessed wrong
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:54 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Here in NJ, we've basically been on house arrest since this whole thing started.
Company is not even considering going to office until after labor day
I wonder how NYC survives why pay the price to be there if work from home works
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
That is fair J I agree that this Is likely the early stages. That’s why I couldn’t help but laugh a little at the guy who was posting like they had it beaten.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:59 am to thelawnwranglers
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I wonder how NYC survives why pay the price to be there if work from home works
I work at an investment bank
Most of the trading desks have not really left
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:00 am to LoveThatMoney
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NY was walloped early on and cut it back by being aggressive with its protocols. He’s saying you can recover from bad spikes but you don’t even have to have them if you do the things recommended by the cdc.
Really?
Look at those images. Their mask mandate went into effect the night of April 17th. Everything peaked before the mask mandate. Stay at home order started March 22nd. They never shutdown the subways, outside of a few hours for cleaning.
Based on those dates compared with the curves and the time lag of infections...I doubt any of their mitigation efforts did much of anything, considering they peaked before the mask mandate.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:01 am to Saint Alfonzo
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One of the plusses of us moving up here was being able to hop on the train and be in the city
I like I can drive to Boston, Philadelphia, or DC about 3 hours
North Jersey
Or hop on a train.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:02 am to Boomshockalocka
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That’s why I couldn’t help but laugh a little at the guy who was posting like they had it beaten.
well they don't have it beaten but, assuming the reports about natural antibodies going away in 2-3 months are wrong, they will be "done" in another couple months
it's kind of like why NY/NJ are seen as "doing it right" now (compared to March-April). when you have such a large % of your population exposed/sick, you're not only cutting out a chunk of the population who can be re-infected, but the secondary effects of that lack of population spread are huge on the remainder
of course areas like TX and Florida have spiking cases now. they didn't have major spread early so the only place they had to go was up. add in a lot more testing now than march-april, and you get exponentially more cases. the deaths per capita still matter, and the NE did a TERRIBLE job. and there were other areas (primarily the west coast and Nola) who had acute issues and they didn't approach the northeast's numbers. to call THEM the area the "gold standard" is insane
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:02 am to Sasquatch Smash
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Yes, they do. I was told it simply wasn't true that New York had one of the worst outcomes in the world, were doing well now because the virus had run its course, and that Texas had flattened their curve from the beginning over the weekend, despite my evidence to the contrary.
Ahh, so basically some people really are stupid and let the television determine their reality.
That's fricking insane to me that there are people out there that truly believe NY handled this well despite the reality that they have one of the highest death rates in the world. I'll never understand being oblivious to reality because Don Lemon or Trump told me what's what on TV last night. Crazy.This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 10:03 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:04 am to RandySavage
That would make a pretty good 'deal with it' gif
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:12 am to lsupride87
It's amazing that in America heart disease slowed down overnight while COVID spiked.
There is a difference in dying WITH COVID and dying FROM COVID but you'd be hard-pressed to get hospitals to report it accurately because they are incentivized not to since they get federal dollars for every COVID case and death.
There is a difference in dying WITH COVID and dying FROM COVID but you'd be hard-pressed to get hospitals to report it accurately because they are incentivized not to since they get federal dollars for every COVID case and death.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 10:12 am to Sasquatch Smash
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Based on those dates compared with the curves and the time lag of infections...I doubt any of their mitigation efforts did much of anything, considering they peaked before the mask mandate.
Basically the virus ran through everyone that was susceptible to the virus i.e. did not have natural T cell immunity.
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