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re: Its amazing how well NY and the northeast handled Covid. They are the gold standard
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:14 am to Mizz-SEC
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:14 am to Mizz-SEC
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Sweden did nothing and is middle of the pack.
Sweden hardly did "nothing", they canceled HS and college, all public gatherings, etc, but they never went full shut down like Spain or Italy, which does make them an interesting case.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:14 am to theunknownknight
Can someone post the numbers of how many nursing home residents died in New York?
To me that has been the biggest travesty in this whole fricked up Covid saga.
To me that has been the biggest travesty in this whole fricked up Covid saga.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:16 am to notiger1997
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Can someone post the numbers of how many nursing home residents died in New York?
To me that has been the biggest travesty in this whole fricked up Covid saga.
Between the 5 states where the governors REQUIRED nursing homes to readmit COVID patients - it was 50,000 people
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:17 am to notiger1997
I don't know about NY, but I know at one point nursing home patients made up 40% of the deaths in LA
I imagine its like that almost everywhere
I imagine its like that almost everywhere
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:17 am to Mizz-SEC
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Sweden did nothing and is middle of the pack.
Sweden didn't do nothing, but they took a sensible approach that didn't involve a full lockdown. And most importantly they are past this. They're done. They aren't wringing their hands about whether to have school or sporting events this Fall.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:19 am to RandySavage
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Fauci is just a giant troll at this point.
Fauci should be tarred and feathered.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:21 am to SloaneRanger
They arent past it at all. Maybe worse now than it is here. I take it you haven’t read about Sweden in the last week or two.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:21 am to IAmNERD
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Cuomo is a nutjob and I cannot for the life of me understand why he's being touted as the golden boy of the pandemic.
1. Because he's a Democrat.
2. Because the media loves Democrats.
3. Because New York City is the traditional home of the national media.
4. Because his brother is a talking head on CNN.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:22 am to Boomshockalocka
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They arent past it at all. Maybe worse now than it is here. I take it you haven’t read about Sweden in the last week or two.
How about a link or two for us to read up on?
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:23 am to Boomshockalocka
LINK
Sweden's prime minister orders an inquiry into the failure of the country's no-lockdown coronavirus strategy
Sweden has launched an inquiry into its no-lockdown policy after thousands of coronavirus deaths in the country.
Sweden now has the fifth-highest per capita death rate in the world with a larger death toll than all of its neighbours' combined.
Sweden's daily new cases rose to over 1,000 in the last week, up from fewer than 500 in May.
Sweden's prime minister orders an inquiry into the failure of the country's no-lockdown coronavirus strategy
Sweden has launched an inquiry into its no-lockdown policy after thousands of coronavirus deaths in the country.
Sweden now has the fifth-highest per capita death rate in the world with a larger death toll than all of its neighbours' combined.
Sweden's daily new cases rose to over 1,000 in the last week, up from fewer than 500 in May.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:27 am to Boomshockalocka
Interesting.
More interesting.
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The inquiry announced by Lofven will first consider why approximately half of Sweden's deaths have taken place in its care homes, The Times of London reported.
"We did not manage to protect the most vulnerable, the elderly, despite our best intentions," the prime minister said.
More interesting.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:29 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:29 am to RB10
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The inquiry announced by Lofven will first consider why approximately half of Sweden's deaths have taken place in its care homes, The Times of London reported.
Which is what the much hyped quote from their epidemiologist last month was about when he said they'd do something differently.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:29 am to RB10
Old people die when they go to nursing homes? sHoCKiNg!
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:30 am to lsupride87
NY was walloped early on and cut it back by being aggressive with its protocols. He’s saying you can recover from bad spikes but you don’t even have to have them if you do the things recommended by the cdc.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:31 am to Sasquatch Smash
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. Because he's a Democrat.
2. Because the media loves Democrats.
3. Because New York City is the traditional home of the national media.
4. Because his brother is a talking head on CNN.
I understand all that. I guess my question should've been does anyone with a working set of eyes and ears really believe that Cuomo did a fantastic job of protecting the citizens of NY? Do people ACTUALLY believe that? Or is it just the usual media talking points being spewed out? Like no one can say that and really believe that. Right?
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:33 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:31 am to RealityTiger
When you really start to look into these “doom and gloom” articles they all seem to circle back to one point.
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Old people die when they go to nursing homes? sHoCKiNg!
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:32 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:32 am to LoveThatMoney
quote:Yeah but the problem is that the CDC lives in a very sterile and non-practical world in which their solution might make medical sense as a response to combat it, but there's no way you're gonna get the nation to stand behind it. Like a complete fricking shutdown.
if you do the things recommended by the cdc.
For starters, we can't afford it. We would all go into an economic depression that would dwarf the Great Depression.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:33 am to RB10
You can pick at the article all you want. This is what I was responding to and is clearly not true.
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And most importantly they are past this. They're done. They aren't wringing their hands about whether to have school or sporting events this Fall.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:34 am to Boomshockalocka
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You can pick at the article all you want. This is what I was responding to and is clearly not true.
I’m not picking at the article. I’m looking at the reality of it. Old people are dying at an extremely high rate in Sweden.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:34 am to I Bleed Garnet
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I have colleagues there and they’ve been going to the beach , eating at restaurants outside, going to bars (that serve food) etc shite even one of them has been sending their kids to day camp
Restaurants been open for outside dining only for just a few weeks now. The same with beaches and shite like day camp. Bars are not open. The governor can shut all that down in a second, as he likes to remind us.
From NJ COVID website:
Bars and restaurants may currently open for drive-through, delivery, takeout, and outdoor dining.
The reopening of indoor dining spaces has been postponed. Indoor dining is not allowed.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:39 am
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