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re: Italian Immigration to Louisiana
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:15 pm to 3deadtrolls
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:15 pm to 3deadtrolls
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Houma has/had a pretty large Italian influence as well.
Rouses, from Houma, doesn’t sound much like an Italian name but I’ve read their roots are Italian, as are many grocers in New Orleans and surrounding areas. My favorite grocery is Zuppardos where all of owners are named Joe or Joey. (jk)
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:27 pm to SaintlyTiger88
The Sicilian influence in Birmingham, Alabama was also significant. My FIL’s family came here because of the amount of poverty in Sicily and were looking for a better scenario. He is third generation.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:30 pm to SaintlyTiger88
A lot of the Sicilians moved into northla and got into farming as well. Shreveport and Monroe have several old Italian restaurants opened by these folks. Still several families involved in farming also.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:32 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Did you ever see that soap opera about Italian immigrant merchants?
It was called
"As the Dagos Buy"
It was called
"As the Dagos Buy"
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:33 pm to teke184
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Tod
That's Italian for "extra special".
There is something important about all of the people that came here late 1800's, early 1900's. As mentioned here, Italian, Irish, & German, and all of the others. Take this however you want or don't, take it at all.
The people from all of those other nationalities assimilated. They became American.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:36 pm to HeyCap
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Rouses, from Houma, doesn’t sound much like an Italian name but I’ve read their roots are Italian, as are many grocers in New Orleans and surrounding areas. My favorite grocery is Zuppardos where all of owners are named Joe or Joey. (jk)
Makes sense as a lot of them were involved in produce. That's actually how the Saias got their start as well, hauling produce.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:37 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Sicilians were brought to Louisiana for low wage labor just like the Irish.
The Sicilians started organizing and created syndicates which started buying real estate and opening business. They also formed “security” businesses which was essentially a shakedown operation that meant - pay me or we burn down your building, kill your family etc… that was the origin of the Italian mob.
A big rift grew between the police and the Italians. The police chief was Irish decent. He got killed and then they hung a bunch of Italians who were suspected to be behind his killing
Italian heritage in New Orleans is very strong but very poorly viewed as a result of the way that that they handled themselves to get a foothold.
The Sicilians started organizing and created syndicates which started buying real estate and opening business. They also formed “security” businesses which was essentially a shakedown operation that meant - pay me or we burn down your building, kill your family etc… that was the origin of the Italian mob.
A big rift grew between the police and the Italians. The police chief was Irish decent. He got killed and then they hung a bunch of Italians who were suspected to be behind his killing
Italian heritage in New Orleans is very strong but very poorly viewed as a result of the way that that they handled themselves to get a foothold.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:45 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Amazing culture and food. My wife’s (pic posted a few threads ago) grandparents are Sicilian and settled in New Orleans. Treated me like their own grandson immediately.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:59 pm to tigafan4life
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My great grandparents immigrated from Corleone, Sicily in the early 1900s and settled in the Irish Channel in New Orleans.
My Italian grandmother had a store on 3rd and Laurel, and my Parran had a store on 4th and Constance
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:01 pm to brewhan davey
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So does Tangipahoa Parish. Independence has the Italian Cultural Museum.
The Independence Sicilian Festival was last weekend. I think it was kind of renewed with interest in the Sicilian heritage part in the last 10-15 years. Younger generations have interest in the history, after older generations were mostly focused on assimilation and economic mobility.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:06 pm to SaintlyTiger88
My grandfather came here in the late 1890's from Calabria, settled in Donaldsonville where he met my grandmother and they moved to the French Quarter, founded numerous small businesses (and FQ properties) and lived the American Dream.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:09 pm to 3deadtrolls
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Makes sense as a lot of them were involved in produce. That's actually how the Saias got their start as well, hauling produce.
Interesting, thanks for mentioning that. I've always seen Saia trucks all over Houston, but never looked up their history.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:11 pm to Tiger Ugly
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My mother-in-law - RIP - was Italian. She said when she was a young adult that would have been in the early 50's, Italians were not allowed in the Baton Rouge Country Club.
I know Country Clubs were and still to some extent are exclusive by nature, but this surprised me. I guess it should not have.
A story/joke I've heard from my dad is that some Italians resented not being able to join the country club in Hammond no matter how successful they were, but that wasn't an issue in Independence where no one knew what a country club was.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:12 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Totally unrelated but you ever notice the shock on people from out of state when you tell them you are from Louisiana but you aren't 100% French. I have Cajun ancestry but most of family came from Germany and Croatia and whenever I tell people that they say "I thought everyone there was Cajun." Like it's an American state, did you think they quit letting immigrants in after the Cajuns came?
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:14 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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Italian Immigration Louisiana
The main reason why SELA baws put tomatoes in their gumbo.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah we didn’t get the Italians. We got a bunch of eggplants.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:17 pm to Limitlesstigers
quote:Every. Single. Sunday.
Sunday gravy
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:44 pm to cgrand
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my maternal great grandparents emigrated from Sicily at the turn of the century. They came in at Ellis Island and settled in and around White Castle and Baton Rouge.
their parents were from martirano in Calabria. Upon entering the United States they anglicized their surname to “martrain”. My grandfather was born here and he and his brothers ran several businesses in Baton Rouge including service grocery on east blvd, martrain marine on airline and a construction company in denham
Both my mother and her sister married anglos which was not exactly common procedure in the early 60s, but all turned out well
Growing up we had dinner together every Sunday at my grandparents house…fried chicken, Sunday gravy, olive salad and spinach
Your mom and her sister gave my daughter a lesson on making red gravy some years back. Your mom's was the BEST. I married Nancy, daughter of Aunt Mary & Uncle Ray. When our second daughter was born, Nancy was staying with Aunt Pauline & Aunt Camilla (we were temporarily without a place). Such wonderful people...took me, a yankee anglo, as one of their own. I love your family so much.
Nancy passed away in '18. A sweetheart and an extraordinary person.
The Italian sausage from Sal's grocery was *hot*!
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:52 pm to NyCaLa
I am Sicilian on my father’s side. They came from Cefalu, Sicily to New Orleans. Settled in Lafayette. It’s where I live today. French and German on my mothers side
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:58 pm to Tiger Ugly
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She said when she was a young adult that would have been in the early 50's, Italians were not allowed in the Baton Rouge Country Club.
I know Country Clubs were and still to some extent are exclusive by nature, but this surprised me. I guess it should not have.
That shite lasted well beyond the early 50s.
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