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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:33 pm to MrLSU
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:33 pm to MrLSU
Why would someone in his position travel to basically an active warzone? What decisions could possibly be made better there then say...nearby on an aircraft carrier?
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:33 pm to sta4ever
1. How many soldiers do we still have over there?
2. What is the difference in danger of that happens?
Syria is in the middle of a civil war right now so it isn’t exactly safe to begin with.
2. What is the difference in danger of that happens?
Syria is in the middle of a civil war right now so it isn’t exactly safe to begin with.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:35 pm to TheFonz
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They had one, but it was abandoned in 2004, and was built over in 2015.
I think that was the one used by some Israeli settlements (or near them) until Israel removed all Jewish settlements for peace back in 2005. Before this it hadn’t been used since 2004.
EDIT: Had to find name - Gush Katif Airport - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gush_Katif_Airport
yassar seems fairly empty. It basically got shut down 2 or 3 years after it opened with start of the 2nd intifada by palestinians in 2000. Israel eventually made runways unusable.
Yasser_Arafat_International_Airport
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The construction of the airport was provided for in the Oslo II Agreement of 1995. It was built with funding from Japan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Spain, and Germany. It was designed by Moroccan architects (modeled after Casablanca airport) and engineers funded by Morocco's King Hassan II. The total cost was $86 million and it was built by Usama Hassan Elkhoudary (El-Khoudary for engineering and contracting). After a year of construction, it opened on 24 November 1998; attendees at the opening ceremony included Yasser Arafat and US President Bill Clinton. At the time, the opening of the airport was described as evidence of progress toward Palestinian statehood.[4][5] The presence of Israelis was restricted to checking passports and bags.
… The Second Intifada broke out in September 2000, leading to the closure of the airport the following month.[9] Israel alternated between reopening and shutting down the airport over the next several months before finally prohibiting all commercial air traffic on 13 February 2001; from then on, only Arafat's private aircraft were allowed to use the airfield.[10][11] Airstrikes destroyed the radar station and control tower on 4 December 2001 and bulldozers cut the runway on 10 January 2002.
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:42 pm to teke184
Well I find it hard to believe that Israel won’t bomb the shite out of some militant groups who are using Syria as a “base”. I could even see Syria being an area where a lot of fighting happens. Just thinking that probably increases the likelihood of some rocket going off its course or something, and hitting a US military base. Just didn’t know if there’s an increased risk of something like that happening, therefore causing us to adjust in Syria and Iraq.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 4:01 pm to sta4ever
Got to love the liberals on Twitter. Had a couple debates with Hamas Loyalists that were saying that Oct 7th was justified and that the IDF intentionally targets Civilians. One went so far to send me videos of interviews where a documentary film crew talked with former Israeli freedom fighters from the 1940’s and 1950’s when there were atrocities by both sides. Long story short I sent back the Jerusalem Post Video and the go-pro of Habibi getting a lead enema and his death gurgles…..not sure how they did it but they figured out where I work and sent an email to my Customer Service…so @ Roymoore I thank you because I deleted my Twitter and I no longer have to see the posts of Antisemitic Terrorist lovers!
Posted on 10/16/23 at 4:07 pm to ABearsFanNMS
They can dish it out but not take it huh?
Posted on 10/16/23 at 4:13 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 10/16/23 at 4:24 pm to teke184
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They can dish it out but not take it huh?
Maybe I should go back and look up the scum defending the Hamas terrorists and report them…..but they likely are in academia or work at Starbucks.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 4:28 pm to sta4ever
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I know this is kind of off topic from the actual conflict, but once this thing really gets going, what would it mean for our soldiers in Syria and Iraq? It just seems like Syria and Iraq will be a big part of this war, especially with Iranian backed militant groups, using Syria and Iraq as bases, and routes to get to Israel/Lebanon. I just wouldn’t think we’d want to have our guys in the middle of this shitshow. Would seem risky to me. Could potentially drag us into the war if we have guys in the middle of this thing. “Accidents” always happen. Have some friends currently in Kuwait waiting to go to Syria. Just curious really.
The Syrian military is in no position to do anything material and is almost certainly weaker at the moment compared to where they may have been a few years ago given the loss of Hezb'allah allies. It's still a very weak state with fluid borders.
Iraq won't do anything - again, too weak and too vulnerable. And they don't have the logistics train to do anything from there, anyway.
The Syrians might pop off some artillery and whatnot, but it's near impossible seeing them try anything offensive.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 4:36 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Yeah, Syria won't do anything. We have almost 1000 military personnel in Syria right now. And Syria has done nothing to drive them out.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 4:38 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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One went so far to send me videos of interviews where a documentary film crew talked with former Israeli freedom fighters from the 1940’s and 1950’s when there were atrocities by both sides.
Until 1948/49 it was all militias. Jewish people had more organization, but both of them attacked Brits as much as each other in 40s. Menachem Begin led one.
They would have to write off the PLO, the 1988 declaration of being a state, the PA, and obviously hamas if their standards were equally held (along with many muslim countries).
Posted on 10/16/23 at 5:02 pm to dallastigers
Don’t forget Munich 1972, which was “officially” a Black September op despite them being part of the PLO.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 5:30 pm to TheFonz
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#BREAKING EU to launch humanitarian air corridor to Gaza: European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen
quote:underwear gnomes, at least the one living in my closet, say...
Is this something Israel signed off on? If not, how do they plan on carrying this out? The only runway in Gaza is kaput.
A) let it cross, confiscate it
B) take it to the top of Tell al-Muntar (clearly visible from the Rafah gate)
C) douse with diesel and set on fire
Posted on 10/16/23 at 6:11 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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The Syrian military is in no position to do anything material and is almost certainly weaker at the moment compared to where they may have been a few years ago given the loss of Hezb'allah allies. It's still a very weak state with fluid borders.
Iraq won't do anything - again, too weak and too vulnerable. And they don't have the logistics train to do anything from there, anyway.
The Syrians might pop off some artillery and whatnot, but it's near impossible seeing them try anything offensive.
Any chance this serves to further destabilize both countries for Iran to exert even more influence, potentially annex? For example, I saw where Iran was moving forces in Syria from the north to the south closer to Israel given Hezbollahs activity there.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 6:38 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Math is hard?
Yes but arithmetic is easy.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 6:39 pm to AbuTheMonkey
It’s odd having Egypt out of the equation. Of course, the last time they tried they ended up walking back to Egypt shoeless, bootless, and only in their underwear.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 6:52 pm to AbuTheMonkey
It’s not really the Syrian government or military I’m worried about. It’s Iranian backed militia groups. Surely Iran would use Iraq and Syria as war grounds. Those countries are in such disarray, that I feel like those countries could very easily become a part of the battlefield. Surely there’ll be movements of militia groups through Syria and Iraq, and I doubt Israel is gonna wait until they get to their borders before doing something about them.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 6:53 pm to jeffsdad
Did anyone see the march on the White House by the pro-Palestine protestors? They were saying it's all propaganda and the violence against innocent people has to stop.
Also a lot of the "protestors" looked like paid homeless people to show up and put a kefiyah around their heads and march
Also a lot of the "protestors" looked like paid homeless people to show up and put a kefiyah around their heads and march
Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:04 pm to The Pirate King
quote:It's stuff like this that strengthen my belief that Isarael will have to BREAK the population of Gaza to meet their full objective.
Did anyone see the march on the White House by the pro-Palestine protestors? They were saying it's all propaganda and the violence against innocent people has to stop.
Also a lot of the "protestors" looked like paid homeless people to show up and put a kefiyah around their heads and march
Their objective is to remove Hamas as a threat, forever.
To achieve the "forever" part the people of Gaza will have to be broken and ask for absolution. Whether this is through blood, fire, starvation, or dehydration (or all of the above) does not matter all that matters is breaking them.
They will have to do one or more of the following for "forever" to be achieved...
1. Ask, nay- beg, Israel to come and kill Hamas to free them.
2. Decide immigrating to Sudan or Mogadishu is better than staying; either way- beg to leave, permanently.
3. All die.
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