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re: Israel Pfizer efficacy against covid-19 hospitalizations broken down by age group

Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:25 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:25 am to
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but under 40 you should stay far away from this thing


Why?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:27 am to
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As well as covid if you want to go that route


I don't disagree, but I might never get Covid. If I get the vaccine then I'm 100% subjecting myself to that long term uncertainty.

These aren't necessarily my personal views, but I understand the arguement.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:28 am to
If you’re under 40 but weigh 250, you absolutely should take this vaccine.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21779 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:28 am to
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But the messaging is if you aren't vaccinated you are committing suicide & murder and should be locked away


FIFY
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:28 am to
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and unknown medium and long term side effects.



this is false


Why is it false? We haven't been implementing mRNA vaccines very long so how do we know about the medium and long term side effects?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108243 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:28 am to
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If you’re under 40 but weigh 250, you absolutely should take this vaccine.
If you are under 40, 6'2" and 175 lbs why shouldnt you take it?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36582 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:28 am to
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and unknown medium and long term side effects.


this is false



I don't see how you can say this.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108243 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:29 am to
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Why is it false? We haven't been implementing mRNA vaccines very long so how do we know about the medium and long term side effects?
Never in the history of medicine has long term effects meant what you are trying to make it

We already have the "long term" effect data on covid and the vaccine
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:29 am to
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If you are under 40, 6'2" and 175 lbs why shouldnt you take it?


Whether you should or shouldn't is a personal choice, but a mandate that you must is asinine and un-American.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108243 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:29 am to
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I don't see how you can say this.
Because you can
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21779 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:29 am to
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If you are under 40, 6'2" and 175 lbs why shouldnt you take it?


Because you don't need to
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28061 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:30 am to
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If you are under 40, 6'2" and 175 lbs why shouldnt you take it?





You know the answer. You've been told numerous times, and you're just too stubborn to hear it. Move along, cupcake
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23043 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:30 am to
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your risk is very low to be hospitalized if you are 30, but what is your argument for not taking something that reduces that risk 31 times?


I mean that’s a little misleading when both stats are insanely low. Also I personally know 1 person under 30 that had a severe reaction to the shot. Obviously that chance is extremely low as well but 1 or 2 out of 100000 seems reasonable.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85369 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:30 am to
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Why is it false? We haven't been implementing mRNA vaccines very long so how do we know about the medium and long term side effects?


we have over a years worth of data

3 months is considered long term when studying side effects

we have that and more

the "long term side effects" thing is a fallacy that people cling to in order to justify their decision, which whatever, do you what you want, but its not based on actual data, but simply feelings
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:31 am to
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We already have the "long term" effect data on covid and the vaccine




We must have different definitions of long term then.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36582 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:32 am to
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Because you can


Smoking at one time was considered "healthy"

Asbestos didn't cause cancer until it did.

Im not saying this vaccine will, but that's the definition of of risk and uncertainty. It's safe until it's not.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21891 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:32 am to
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Never in the history of medicine has long term effects meant what you are trying to make it

We already have the "long term" effect data on covid and the vaccine


Are you trying to imply that a "vaccine" that's administered by violently piercing the skin with a sharp object, and then injects an unknown concoction of chemicals directly into your bloodstream, is safe? And we don't even have 25 years of data backing this up? Yeah right libtard smell ya later
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21779 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:32 am to
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but its not based on actual data, but simply feelings


Same can be said about vaccine & mask mandates.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85369 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:33 am to
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Same can be said about vaccine & mask mandates.


absolutely

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:33 am to
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the "long term side effects" thing is a fallacy that people cling to in order to justify their decision,


That may be but they are not clinging to it to justify their decision. They are clinging to it as one more arrow in their quiver from getting forced vaxxed.

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