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re: Israel Pfizer efficacy against covid-19 hospitalizations broken down by age group

Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:20 am to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:20 am to
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So if you are under 50 and not vaxxed, there's about a .025% chance you have a "severe case?"

But the messaging is if you aren't vaccinated you are committing suicide



Pretty much.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:20 am to
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The poster above who just gave us the newsweek link is doing the same thing, just from the other side.



Oh well, those in charge made their bed, and now they must sleep in it. The vaccine is objectively good, but the messaging has been an absolute failure. That's on them.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:20 am to
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This does not take into account good health, lack of comorbidities and antibodies from previous COVID infection...all which substantially reduces the risk of a sever case of COVID.

I'm still not convinced the vaccine is the proper route for people like me in the low risk groups.


its an added layer
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:21 am to
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That’s not a lot. You know how many people live in Louisiana? People have lost all concept of reality when they hear Covid stats.

You are the same way with the vaccine


your risk is very low to be hospitalized if you are 30, but what is your argument for not taking something that reduces that risk 31 times?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:21 am to
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Based on that chart and my age the chances of me contracting a "severe case" (not death) is 0.0282%. Said another way, I have a 97.18% chance of not getting a sever case.


Not a math guy
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:21 am to
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antibodies from previous COVID infection
I was told that this is no longer a thing.

This post is sponsored by Pfizer
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 10:23 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299137 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:21 am to
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that otherwise don't need it


They are selfish. Covidians live in fear and think if you are healthy and unvaccinated, theyre in mortal danger.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:22 am to
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So if you are under 50 and not vaxxed, there's about a .025% chance you have a "severe case?"


And of those severe cases, how many were in good shape?
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:22 am to
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but what is your argument for not taking something that reduces that risk 31 times?



Muh ADE. Muh unknown side effects. Muh Joe Rogan
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:23 am to
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Does "severe cases" mean hospitalized? I didn't read the whole thing.
Thats how I interpreted it based on this:

quote:

In this post, I will focus on vaccine efficacy vs. severe disease/hospitalization
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:23 am to
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And of those severe cases, how many were in good shape?


With OG Covid essentially 0

With delta we have had maybe 5-10 under 50 healthy skinny people die at our hospital
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:23 am to
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your risk is very low to be hospitalized if you are 30, but what is your argument for not taking something that reduces that risk 31 times?


The arguement would be even though it's 32 times less likely, the absolute risk is still astronomically low, and there's still long term uncertainty with the vaccine. Combine that with the horrible messaging, to the point of straight up lieing, by the decision makers stirring up distrust with what they say in general.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:23 am to
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its an added layer


I have a 99.9718% chance of not getting a sever case based on that study.

I'll pass on the added layer that has known short term and unknown medium and long term side effects.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:23 am to
So basically over 40 it may be wise to vaccinate if you so choose, but under 40 you should stay far away from this thing
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177290 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:24 am to
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your risk is very low to be hospitalized if you are 30, but what is your argument for not taking something that reduces that risk 31 times?

Because the risk is already low and to spite the frick face politicians and “doctors” pushing fear for compliance.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:24 am to
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quote:

Based on that chart and my age the chances of me contracting a "severe case" (not death) is 0.0282%. Said another way, I have a 97.18% chance of not getting a sever case.



Not a math guy


I caught my error and fixed it.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23156 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:24 am to
I believe it also shows how low the risk of severe illness is in general. The risk for a person under 40 seems almost negligible. It doesn’t start getting real risky until over 60.

We were clearly hit with a numbers game with delta. If a person wanted to take a chance with it then their chances were really good;however, with it being so contagious the hospitals are getting over run bc the number of people infected is so high.

I would actually be more concerned about getting in a car accident requiring medical care during this time than actually getting covid.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111389 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:25 am to
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and there's still long term uncertainty with the vaccine.
As well as covid if you want to go that route, but I think this route is ridiculous unicorn chasing on both the virus and vaccine side
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:25 am to
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Thats how I interpreted it based on this:


quote:

In this post, I will focus on vaccine efficacy vs. severe disease/hospitalization


Ehh, maybe. "Severe disease" to me could be interpreted put you on your arse for a week.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86176 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:25 am to
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I have a 99.9718% chance of not getting a sever case based on that study.


ok

quote:

I'll pass on the added layer that has known short term


less of a chance than a severe case of COVID

quote:

and unknown medium and long term side effects.


this is false

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