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re: Is there an update on missing 40 year old man?
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:44 pm to fallguy_1978
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:44 pm to fallguy_1978
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Yeah this doesn't seem like it's going to end well. Any other scenarios seem extremely unlikely. I'm just surprised his body hasn't been found yet.
Something very close to this whole scenario happened to my Dad, back in 70s.Except he wasn't at a bar, he was coming home from his work rounds.
I don't want to get into the whole story, but his body ended up being found by duck hunters, after days of searching, by hundreds of volunteers.
It's a needle in a haystack thing.
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:49 pm to Gris Gris
I know nothing about this other than reading just a few posts here. But is it possible he ran away? Some seem to have great home lives yet can’t handle it and break.
If he was to run away then he did it perfectly. Face timed with wife at a bb game. Then just gone. Maybe he gave a guy his card and pin to throw police off. Got rid of phone. Maybe thats why police are slow to respond to public as they are likely checking his background and any footage of Uber/bus/rail/airlines in 50 mile radius. Maybe he paid the guy to withdraw money.
Just throwing it out there. The other alternative is not good
If he was to run away then he did it perfectly. Face timed with wife at a bb game. Then just gone. Maybe he gave a guy his card and pin to throw police off. Got rid of phone. Maybe thats why police are slow to respond to public as they are likely checking his background and any footage of Uber/bus/rail/airlines in 50 mile radius. Maybe he paid the guy to withdraw money.
Just throwing it out there. The other alternative is not good
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:53 pm to OU Guy
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Maybe he gave a guy his card and pin to throw police off. Got rid of phone. Maybe thats why police are slow to respond to public as they are likely checking his background and any footage of Uber/bus/rail/airlines in 50 mile radius. Maybe he paid the guy to withdraw money.
Just throwing it out there. The other alternative is not good
It seems to me, that if the cops suspect that this is the case, they should put photos out, of the guy that used the card, to pressure him to come talk.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:55 pm to Gris Gris
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This makes me believe he was alive when they used the card and then taken somewhere else, murdered and the body hidden.
That’s just a lot of work for a couple hundred bucks. Wouldn’t it just have been quicker (and much easier)to rob him and take off?
Something isn’t adding up.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:56 pm to OU Guy
I suspect The Client has a lot more answers than he is initially providing.
He’s certainly linked to a lot of key milestones in the 24 hours before and after the “disappearance”.
Potentially very clever dumping the wallet and phone but giving the ATM Card + PIN to someone else.
He’s certainly linked to a lot of key milestones in the 24 hours before and after the “disappearance”.
Potentially very clever dumping the wallet and phone but giving the ATM Card + PIN to someone else.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:57 pm to Gris Gris
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Wouldn't the person using the debit card need his pin?
This makes me believe he was alive when they used the card and then taken somewhere else, murdered and the body hidden.
They probably beat the PIN out of him and then killed him when they realized it worked because they had no more use for him. I hope ghetto culture is exterminated out of this country.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:03 pm to IT_Dawg
Agreed. I feel like the news outlets are just confusing the public. Seems like conflicting reports and timelines... Would be very helpful to get a full timeliness straight from BRPD.
Unfortunately it looks like BRPD doesn't care for any public feedback. I can only hope it's because they are much further along in the investigation than we are... Surely his phone would potentially have clues on it. Downtown has cameras everywhere, was he with another person or alone? Why don't we have details about the person using his card? He can't be that hard to find.
Unfortunately it looks like BRPD doesn't care for any public feedback. I can only hope it's because they are much further along in the investigation than we are... Surely his phone would potentially have clues on it. Downtown has cameras everywhere, was he with another person or alone? Why don't we have details about the person using his card? He can't be that hard to find.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:11 pm to OU Guy
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I know nothing about this other than reading just a few posts here. But is it possible he ran away? Some seem to have great home lives yet can’t handle it and break.
I've 100% thought about the other scenarios. Faked his own death, wife or client tried to have him killed. All terrible to think about, but I just can't shake the fact that a random murder doesn't really make sense. If you are the criminal why not find an easier target? Why did he leave Third St? He clearly wasn't just going straight back to the hotel.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:15 pm to auggie
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but his body ended up being found by duck hunters, after days of searching, by hundreds of volunteers. It's a needle in a haystack thing.
Yeah, that's the real issue. I could take you to hundreds of places, off the path, where you could dump something and no one ever look. People do it all the time, usually Just garbage.
But unless the smell hits you...or you see the buzzards, or the swarms of flies.
Well...you could walk right by and never even notice. And that's not even counting the innumerable blighted buildings and decrepit houses.
Only found more junkies this time though
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:16 pm to auggie
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It seems to me, that if the cops suspect that this is the case, they should put photos out, of the guy that used the card, to pressure him to come talk.
What if they already talked to him and he said he was given the card/pin. Until they check that angle out technically he hasn’t committed a crime yet. And to check out his version (guy gave it to him) they’d want to be quiet about it so the runner isn’t aware they are onto him.
All speculation of course.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:17 pm to GeauxPack81
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I just can't shake the fact that a random murder doesn't really make sense. If you are the criminal why not find an easier target? Why did he leave Third St? He clearly wasn't just going straight back to the hotel.
I've got my suspicions on this, but I'm just going to say that this won't be solved probably.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:17 pm to UncleLester
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I suspect The Client has a lot more answers than he is initially providing.
He’s certainly linked to a lot of key milestones in the 24 hours before and after the “disappearance”.
I thought it was pretty strange too. If I missed a meeting with a client the next day, I don't think a single client of mine would assume something bad happened to me and call the police.
If we had been out drinking the night before, client would probably think I couldn't handle the drinking and was too hungover.
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He clearly wasn't just going straight back to the hotel.
This too. The hotel is on 3rd St, as is Happy's.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:21 pm to LouisianaLady
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I thought it was pretty strange too. If I missed a meeting with a client the next day, I don't think a single client of mine would assume something bad happened to me and call the police.
If we had been out drinking the night before, client would probably think I couldn't handle the drinking and was too hungover.
Does anyone know who this client is?
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:23 pm to LouisianaLady
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I thought it was pretty strange too. If I missed a meeting with a client the next day, I don't think a single client of mine would assume something bad happened to me and call the police.
Only gave him an hour and called the police too. Seems kind of sketchy.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:23 pm to auggie
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Why would you rob and kill a guy for nothing but a card that's going to have limits?
I mean, that's like asking why would you randomly shoot into a vehicle stopped at a railroad crossing or on an interstate.
Weird, not adding up, these are things you don't take for granted in uncivilized places.
Anarchy is on our doorstep, and I'm not a doomsdayer
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:33 pm to jose
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Only gave him an hour and called the police too. Seems kind of sketchy.
Starting to feel like a John Grisham book.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:35 pm to IT_Dawg
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Construction - he flew in Wednesday afternoon and met up with his client at some point. The client is the one that last saw him, leaving around 11:30pm from Happy’s. The client was still at the bar.
Nathan didn’t show up for an 8am meeting at the job site, so that’s when the client went to the hotel and requested a welfare check on his room. His room was clean, stuff still there, bed made.
Client called in a missing person report then
frick.
We had a meeting for our Captive Insurance at the Higgins Hotel last week. A lot of construction and ancillary industry reps in town for it.
The head of the captive insurance group announced to everyone at the meeting "Look, this is a dangerous city. Do not go out walking. If you want to go anywhere, take a cab or Uber."
Its a sad state of affairs that people have to be told basically "if you want to live, stay in your hotel."
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:42 pm to jose
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Only gave him an hour and called the police too. Seems kind of sketchy.
He gave him an hour and called repeatedly, then went to the hotel and asked them to check the room…
He didn’t file a police report until he and the hotel manager got the phone from the city worker…
If I met up with a client for a site visit like that after drinking until 11:30 and saw him potentially leave with a new friend, I would call him over and over for an hour then go to the hotel as well. Just sayin
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:45 pm to IT_Dawg
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He gave him an hour and called repeatedly, then went to the hotel and asked them to check the room…
He didn’t file a police report until he and the hotel manager got the phone from the city worker…
If I met up with a client for a site visit like that after drinking until 11:30 and saw him potentially leave with a new friend, I would call him over and over for an hour then go to the hotel as well. Just sayin
I missed all of those details. I thought I read that he gave him an hour and called the cops.
What you said is more plausible.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:45 pm to Gris Gris
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Wouldn't the person using the debit card need his pin?
You can use the credit option for some purchases but not for taking cash out. A lot of people use really obvious PINs like the year of their birth which would be on his license.
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