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re: Is the USA different now than pre-Covid 2019?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:08 pm to Toxic Dude
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:08 pm to Toxic Dude
Everybody forgets how cheap taxes were back then before boomers voted for food stamps and israel
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:14 pm to el Gaucho
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Everybody forgets how cheap taxes were back then before boomers voted for food stamps and israel
Is there an anti-semitic reason that you didn't capitalize the 'i' in Israel, Palestinian lover?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:24 pm to N2cars
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Not really.
I personally dont know anyone that has even mentioned it in the last 3 years+.
If you didn't lose a loved one due to Covid and you're still "suffering", you likely have always had issues and always will.
Life's tough, wear a helmet.
Not what I'm referring to.
The quality of work, service, goods, etc is still recovering. Hence the question OP was trying to ask.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:51 pm to BurningHeart
COVID was only the largest transfer of wealth in history, so yeah, there have been a few changes
Posted on 10/8/25 at 2:46 pm to Toxic Dude
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You noodle armed soy boys wouldn't have lasted 1 day in a steel mill.
You can even handle driving to your cubicle and sitting in an air conditioned office.
You're the most pathetic generation in history.
The first generation that can't seem to figure things out.
Now stfu barista boy and bring my coffee, I have a 2pm Tee Time.
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Toxic Dude
Checks out
Posted on 10/8/25 at 2:50 pm to Underteaux
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Thats more of a testament to the beauty of private equity’s rise than anything else.
Having good customer service is expensive. You’re better off shopping through Mom & Pop’s if you want good customer service.
PE existed en masse in the 2010s.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 2:52 pm to Jcorye1
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PE existed en masse in the 2010s.
PE scooped up a shite ton of successful businesses that were depressed during COVID in 2022 and 2023
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:17 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
Sorry.
100% agree.
But, and this is a big "but", what I think we're seeing, and putting up with, is demographics (less workers), a situation that was exacerbated by the sudden loss of people from the workforce due to Covid.
In other words, we were due for a worker shortage anyway and Covid just made it worse.
We are now employing the previously unemployable.
100% agree.
But, and this is a big "but", what I think we're seeing, and putting up with, is demographics (less workers), a situation that was exacerbated by the sudden loss of people from the workforce due to Covid.
In other words, we were due for a worker shortage anyway and Covid just made it worse.
We are now employing the previously unemployable.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:37 pm to BurningHeart
I think the US had already decline but covid rapidly accelerated it.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:48 pm to BurningHeart
Anecdotal....one of the few good things that happened is people who show up for work and put in a good effort seemed to band together a little bit.
I feel like I talked more and continue to talk more with people who work in different jobs -- whether it's custodial, educators, store clerks, cooks....
I feel like I talked more and continue to talk more with people who work in different jobs -- whether it's custodial, educators, store clerks, cooks....
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:52 pm to BurningHeart
every company basically accepted the motto.
"Due to the pandemic we are allowed to offer a diminished services for the same or higher price"
"Due to the pandemic we are allowed to offer a diminished services for the same or higher price"
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:52 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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The decision to shut down the economy may have set this country back 10 years. We'll eventually get back to a level similar to 2019, but probably not until 2029.
Of all the negative impacts of the failed response to COVID, I don’t see the economy as one. That pause on spending coupled with government infusion of capital to businesses large and small lit a fire under an economy that was in its 8th year of a recovery.
Consumer bank balances exploded while consumer debt decreased. The cost of labor went up creating unprecedented leaps in salary for American workers.
Salaries and the average cost of anything isn’t going to 2019 unless there is a total apocalyptic collapse.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:54 pm to weagle1999
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Good customer service and quality work seem to be at all time lows.
competency crisis. Exacerbated since 2020.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:55 pm to weagle1999
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Good customer service and quality work seem to be at all time lows.
I think the point of the thread was about customer service but the OP struggled to make that the focus.
I think it many industries they moved from providing certain things and will strongly resist going back. Full service hotels and airlines are two that come to mind for me.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:58 pm to upgrayedd
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COVID was only the largest transfer of wealth in history, so yeah, there have been a few changes
Where are you claiming the wealth came from and went to? This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read TD.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:01 pm to Toxic Dude
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Young people are too lazy to return to the office, let alone do any work.
Us educated people can do our jobs anywhere, I dont want to deal with office BS....
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:16 pm to Tommy Noble
I think 9/11 brought Americans together while Covid set in division amongst us unlike any other time in History with all the George Floyd nonsense and lockdowns in place and nothing but a computer to get information from.
Even the Tiger King couldn’t help us overcome all of it.
Now people seem to act like they just dislike one another if they don’t know them.
Even the Tiger King couldn’t help us overcome all of it.
Now people seem to act like they just dislike one another if they don’t know them.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:20 pm to BurningHeart
Well if you are focused on customer service focused jobs.
They are making less compared to inflation.
So we are getting what we paid for
They are making less compared to inflation.
So we are getting what we paid for
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:49 pm to BurningHeart
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Not that the 2010's had excellent customer service and work ethics, but it just seems like ever since the Covid shutdown it seems like employees care even less than before along with the absurdly high price increases since then.
Is it just rose colored glasses or do you all see the same thing? Will things ever turn back around?
We taught people that Nanny Government will do everything it can, including putting the country further into debt, to make sure that no one experienced even one ounce of actual discomfort.
We paid people to sit home, rather than just put up with the world and risk being a little sick or a little uncomfortable.
What do you think happens when you train people that they don't have to do much to survive? That the nanny state will be there to save them no matter what?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:53 pm to Toxic Dude
If boomers where so tough why did they raise their children like soft puzzies?
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