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re: Is the Lexus IS fun to drive? If not, what is?

Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:34 am to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12488 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:34 am to
The future Mrs Biljamin has an IS350. She switched from a BMW 3 series and its quite a bit more fun to drive. I would definitely stock with the 350 and not the 250 or 200t. The bigger V6 gives it enough torque to feel pepping in sport mode. Its a solid car, we have no complaints and will only be getting rid of it because she fell in love with the Model 3 when she drove her sisters.
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:07 am to
I'll get downvoted, but you asked for an opinion, so here's mine: One of the most fun little cars I've ever driven and owned was a turbocharged mini cooper s with a 6 speed in it. Paid cash money for it with 15k miles on the odo.

That little bastard would TOTE THE MAIL and get 39 mpg doing it. It also had an INCREDIBLE sound system in it.

Unfortunately it was a POS, or more appropriately, it had POS sensors on it that constantly threw codes when nothing was actually wrong, but in the process it'd put the car into limp mode. Eventually I got tired of clearing the codes and sold it.

If not for that, I'd still own it, but it'd have a towing package welded to the rear frame because the car was heavy as a tank (relatively speaking) and could easily tow a utility trailer full of, say, mulch if needed.

I miss that little scream demon so much that I'm probably going to buy another soon. The S model I had/want is completely impractical for hauling much of anything inside the car (groceries, etc. are fine, but don't go Christmas shopping in it with more than 1 passenger), but I'll be damned if it wasn't an exhilarating experience to strike out on a 6 hour road trip and on the way hunt for the curviest of roads, the smallest of parking spaces (and back in said parking space just, "because") and lust for 70 mph bumper-to-bumper interstate traffic...and only pay pennies in gas to get there.

After owning a mini, I'm privy to the fact that Mini owners are kind of like jeep (real jeep) owners: you love em or hate em, but mostly even the haters still loved em when they did. There are so many mods you can do to them, but the tradeoff is...well, there are tradeoffs to the fun and love of owning one where most vehicles it just ain't so. It's a love/hate relationship, but the fun factor is too much to overcome.

I vote a Turbocharged Mini S with a 6 speed, baw.
Posted by stonedbegonias
Member since Jan 2010
11579 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:33 am to
The RC 350 is extremely fun to drive imo.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26555 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:35 am to
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Define fun to drive. BMW is better at performance but is not as reliable as a Lexus.


The question wasn't about reliability. So unless you consider "fun" and "reliable" to be synonyms, it's not really relevant.

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And when a BMW breaks and you are out of warranty get ready to pay a lot. Also regular maintenance such as LOF and brakes are a lot more expensive.


You can say that about a lot of cars. My BMWs rarely had issues, and they were all within warranty, so I never had a problem with BMW.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5513 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:43 am to
Buy a Tesla.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12488 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Buy a Tesla.


While i agree, if thats in your price range there are quite a few other cars to consider.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110821 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Is the Lexus IS fun to drive? If not, what is?
In the Lexus IS price range, a Tesla Model 3 is going to be hard to beat if you're looking for a vehicle that is just fun to drive.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25618 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:05 am to
quote:

The Lexus IS series has always been in my mind as an affordable car that doesn't look like a grocery wagon, but also 'appears' to be a driver's car. Agree/Disagree? Any other recommendations?


I absolutely agree, but that is a stacked segment. Small sports sedans have long been a very competitive segment and the pendulum swings from manufacturer to manufacturer as to who has the best at any given time. If you are asking about used then the years you are looking at has to be established and if you are buying new two years from now the landscape will most likely have changed.

Of the current crop, the BMW 3 series is probably the best drivers car but that only applies to the current model year. You can cross off the Acuras since they are FWD.

There are over a dozen cars in the segment and a lot more of your wants and needs plus budget would have to be considered. Coming from a truck all of them will be much more "sporty" and the IS will fit the bill if you want an extremely reliable car that doesn't have to be large and you don't require the most up to date technology.

If you haven't driven this segment of cars recently or ever you need to get out and drive them.


A loose determination of the segment contains:

BMW 2, 3 and 4 series
Audi A4/5
Genesis G70
Mercedes C, CLA, A
Kia Stinger
Volvo S60
Alfa Giulia
Infiniti Q50/60
Lexus IS/RC
Acura ILX
Cadillac ATS
Jaguar XE

Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12488 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Kia Stinger


I was really surprised by how much fun these were to drive. I'm not exactly looking to trade the GTR for it, but in the price range its a lot of car for the money.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10398 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:41 am to
quote:

was really surprised by how much fun these were to drive. I'm not exactly looking to trade the GTR for it, but in the price range its a lot of car for the money.

This car is a sleeper. Tons of power and you can get one with over 400hp that beats a lot of cars off the line.

Posted by Them
People's Republic of Bozeman
Member since Nov 2008
11128 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:04 pm to
I am a weapons-grade car nerd/enthusiast.

I dearly love the new Honda Accord, specifically the Sport, EX-L or Touring with the 2.0L turbo-4. That engine comes standard with a 10-speed automatic, which is just excellent. Super smooth and tightly geared. You can even get a 6-speed manual with that engine in the Sport.

Very athletic and balanced chassis, excellent steering, turn-in is immediate, and these cars are rockets with the 2.0T. 5.5s to 60, 100 mph in the 1/4 mile, and they feel faster than that in real life. They’re also huge cars, with a giant back seat, a big trunk and a ton of space in general. Great seats too.

Sure, they’re FWD, but who gives a frick? It’s not like you’re doing any drifting anyway.

I would have one of these cars if I didn’t live in Montana, where 275 hp to the front wheels is a bit much in the snow/ice.

I’m not a Honda shill. I just love these damn Accords. They feel alive and athletic in a way that almost no other “normal” car does, and Honda is to be praised for making them that way.

See Car and Driver’s long term review of one of these exact cars. 40k miles with 2018 Accord 2.0T
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58334 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:06 pm to






subtle
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38970 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:07 pm to
Cereal?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35312 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:12 pm to
Yea but then you have to deal with retarded Kia dealers that'd rather the car sit on the lot for 8 months instead of selling it at sticker.

First year stinger sales were GARBAGE yet dealers weren't budging off of multiple thousands in dealer mark up and no test drives without a deposit down.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Lexus IS
Save money. Buy the Toyota version.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35312 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:18 pm to
There isn’t a toyota version of the IS you dumb boomer
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25618 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

I am a weapons-grade car nerd/enthusiast.


quote:

I dearly love the new Honda Accord


quote:

Sure, they’re FWD, but who gives a frick?


Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25618 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

Save money. Buy the Toyota version.


Illuminate us. What exactly would that be?
Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:52 pm to
God no. Get a BMW
Posted by texasmason
Dallas
Member since Apr 2019
1300 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:58 pm to
You should give the Porsche Macan S a look. It is a lot of fun.

2019 Porsche Macan S Turbo

Towing capacity: 4,409 lbs
Horsepower: 348 hp
Drive: Awd
Wheelbase: 110.5 inch
0 - 60 time: 5.3 seconds
Top speed: 157 mph
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