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Posted on 7/30/22 at 8:26 pm to sabes que
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There is nothing wrong with being a good person and believing as much, it’s delusional to be a good person and think otherwise.
But there are many, many bad people, quite frankly spawn of Satan level evil, that are completely convinced they are good people and oblivious they’re among the most evil men who have ever lived. Your self perception is irrelevant. You don’t think people like Hitler and Genghis Khan weren’t convinced they were good and creating a brighter future? Hell some historians claim to this day that Genghis Khan was doing it, which is easy for them to say nearly 900 years removed from the event.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 8:38 pm to fr33manator
Who cares? They’re being a good person.
Everything you post seems like some desperate attempt to impress someone or get attention. Do you really ponder these things or are you trolling?
Everything you post seems like some desperate attempt to impress someone or get attention. Do you really ponder these things or are you trolling?
Posted on 7/31/22 at 1:38 am to tigerinthebueche
Bro it was a legit question, don’t be a dick
Posted on 7/31/22 at 8:52 am to sabes que
My wife and I prefer to donate anonymously. If you don't you get hounded forever.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 8:55 am to sabes que
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There is nothing wrong with being a good person and believing as much,
Ah yes, the big ego and virtue signaling.
Most "good people" just believe they are doing what they are supposed to do.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:37 am to tigerinthebueche
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Everything you post seems like some desperate attempt to impress someone or get attention. Do you really ponder these things or are you trolling?
It's a very fair question that he asks. But it's okay if you don't have time to ponder such things.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:40 am to fr33manator
Every decision you make is based on being selfish.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:51 am to TackySweater
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Every decision you make is based on being selfish.
Correct. Even if its just to stave off negative feelings.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:54 am to fr33manator
I'm not sure that I can answer your question, but seems like some nuggets were created in this thread.
I'll throw out an example of perhaps one side.
I have a friend who loves to be angry at seemingly minute things, such as a restaurant not having Tobasco available, as if NO OTHER hot sauce could possibly be acceptable to apply to their food. He pretty much stays angry about something.
But he also takes opportunities to help his neighbors when he can. But it seems like he makes sure to tell as many people as he can of his good deed.
Certainly his neighbors appreciate his deeds.
I'm not going to say he's not a good man, but I don't think he's as good of a man as he thinks he is.
I'll throw out an example of perhaps one side.
I have a friend who loves to be angry at seemingly minute things, such as a restaurant not having Tobasco available, as if NO OTHER hot sauce could possibly be acceptable to apply to their food. He pretty much stays angry about something.
But he also takes opportunities to help his neighbors when he can. But it seems like he makes sure to tell as many people as he can of his good deed.
Certainly his neighbors appreciate his deeds.
I'm not going to say he's not a good man, but I don't think he's as good of a man as he thinks he is.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:58 am to fr33manator
Authenticity rules the day.
If depicting "good man", question the authenticity and, therefore, quality of said "good man".
Feeling good by doing good deeds as a good man that then fuels more good is natural and good. This, versus imparting being a good man, is not as good as Mr. Good Man thinks.
The line is bold between selfless and selfish. "Deriving pleasure"...wrong side of line. "Feeling good" for others by said good deeds...right side of line.
If depicting "good man", question the authenticity and, therefore, quality of said "good man".
Feeling good by doing good deeds as a good man that then fuels more good is natural and good. This, versus imparting being a good man, is not as good as Mr. Good Man thinks.
The line is bold between selfless and selfish. "Deriving pleasure"...wrong side of line. "Feeling good" for others by said good deeds...right side of line.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:01 am to fr33manator
Doing good for the praise of others is less praiseworthy than doing good for its own sake. All the same, virtue is built from habits.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:04 am to fr33manator
Kant we not categorical imperative?
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:06 am to fr33manator
I'd rather folks think I'm nice than an arse hole. Liking being nice to folks doesn't change the fact that you're nice to folks
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:06 am to fr33manator
Of course. Having people SEE that you are nice is a great thing. "thinking " you are nice implies that you might not really be.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:16 am to fr33manator
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To elaborate on the question. If someone is a nice person, but they get a sense of satisfaction out of people thinking that they are a nice person, are they actually a nice person?
I’m always a little skeptical of the motivation of people who do nice or charitable work in a high profile way. Are they genuinely wanting to help or are they just paying for an image boost?
How often do people on here celebrate Shaq for being so giving? Often. What if he did all that charity work anonymously through an attorney and no one knew about it?
I dunno. Just something that crosses my mind when I hear about such stories.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:07 pm to fr33manator
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To elaborate on the question. If someone is a nice person, but they get a sense of satisfaction out of people thinking that they are a nice person, are they actually a nice person?
Yes. I'd argue that a person deeming the correct set of life parameters to be good, and trying to obtain that goal is good.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:17 pm to Jcorye1
I’ve really been musing over this one.
If one seeks to be “good”, and to have it be met with good behavior in reciprocity, one would need to have a social circle with similar values on behavior.
I.e., if goodness is returned with goodness, goodness grows.
If goodness is met with wickedness, then he would either not associate with those people, or begin to give wickedness in return for wickedness.
Is is hard for flowers to thrive in thorns, but easy to thrive among other flowers.
If one seeks to be “good”, and to have it be met with good behavior in reciprocity, one would need to have a social circle with similar values on behavior.
I.e., if goodness is returned with goodness, goodness grows.
If goodness is met with wickedness, then he would either not associate with those people, or begin to give wickedness in return for wickedness.
Is is hard for flowers to thrive in thorns, but easy to thrive among other flowers.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:34 pm to Globetrotter747
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I’m always a little skeptical of the motivation of people who do nice or charitable work in a high profile way. Are they genuinely wanting to help or are they just paying for an image boost?
How often do people on here celebrate Shaq for being so giving? Often. What if he did all that charity work anonymously through an attorney and no one knew about it?
It’s a good question. Is it better to give anonymously and perhaps be thought a miser? Is it any less admirable to do it in the light?
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:22 pm to High C
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Nice guys finish last.
Did that answer the question?
Nice guys don't finish last.
But they do finish second a lot.
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