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re: Is robbing a bank the dumbest crime one can commit?

Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by beulahland
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:42 pm to
Federal Prison > Angola
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Saw a story that a guy robbed a bank in Covington. You can't get away with that. The money will be flagged and the dumbass stole a car too. It's pretty much impossible to get away with robbing a bank today with technology.

The only thing I can think of that's dumber is stealing a credit card and then using it. The transactions can be tracked, and the card cancelled to boot.

It's exponentially easier to get away with murder.


When I was still living in New Orleans there was a full on gun battle with automatic AK's at the Capital One on Carrolton near St Charles. Apparently they hit an armored truck delivering a lot of cash to the bank. One of the guards ran out and opened fire, and the robbers fired back. Afterward you could see the bullet holes in the side of the bank and tell where they were shooting from.

Two black SUVs blocked the side streets while the getaway was on the street heading away from Carrollton.

Afaik they were never caught. Let me see if I can find the article...

LINK

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Shortly before 11:30 a.m., a black Dodge Intrepid squealed to a halt -- diagonally across the road -- outside Mona's Cafe at 1120 S. Carrollton Ave. Car horns began blaring. Drivers started swearing.

A man dressed in black with a ski mask covering his face got out of the car and walked down the block.

A white Dodge Caravan, which had been parked nearby, then pulled up outside the bank.

Three men got out. They wore ski masks and carried AK-47 assault rifles.

Across the tree-lined street, children at St. Andrew's Episcopal School reveled at recess, playing a game of Octopus, when the commotion erupted. A teacher ushered the students into the chapel and led them in prayer.

"We prayed that the policemen didn't get hurt and that the robbers learned from their mistakes," third-grader Sarah Whitty said.

Boxes of money

On the Zimpel Street side of the building, an armored truck idled. An armored-truck guard pushed a cart stacked with encyclopedia-sized boxes of coins and money toward the truck. The other guard held the door open.

The gunmen confronted the guards.

Bennett Luke, a bank customer, said he was inside leaning against a wall, chatting on his cell phone. The room suddenly went quiet.

"Everyone just had this look in their eyes -- their eyes were bulging," said Luke, 31.

The guards ran into the bank with their guns drawn, he said. One guard fired outside at the masked men.

The gunmen fired several rounds. Across Zimpel Street, a young man in his pajamas heard the shots. His cat was clawing at the window.

"Dut-dut-dut-dut .$?.$?. It sounded like firecrackers going off," said the man, who asked not to be identified.

"I came out of my house and this guy had a straight-up AK-47," he said. "It even had a banana clip on it. This was a professional job. No doubt about it."

The robbers got away with an undisclosed amount of money, authorities said. They never entered the bank, according to sources.

Well-planned heist

The gunmen fled in the white Dodge Caravan, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which investigates bank robberies.

"These guys definitely did their homework," a law enforcement source said. "They knew what they were doing."

The robbers drove about five blocks into a parking lot near the intersection of Dante and Maple streets, behind a barbershop and a restaurant.

The gunmen got out of the van, leaving the doors open. They jumped into a white Dodge Magnum, according to a witness. An accomplice waited inside, authorities said.

The group fled north on Leake Avenue toward Jefferson Parish.

The abandoned Dodge Caravan and Dodge Intrepid were later towed by authorities. Both cars had been reported stolen in Jefferson Parish
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 10:07 pm
Posted by TDFreak
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:59 pm to
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Use a 20, buy a drink. That's $19 change back to you, clean...do that 100 times a day. $1900 in clean money daily.
Thats a ridiculous plan. You’d be pissing all those drinks the entire damn day!
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:59 pm to
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it may be the worst ration of likely reward to potential penalties in terms of financially-based crimes

worst? Pretty sure statistics show otherwise. And if you're not armed, depending in the state, the sentence isn't that bad.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 10:02 pm to
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Is robbing a bank the dumbest crime one can commit?



The clearance rate on bank robberies is roughly 60%.

That means you have a 40% chance of getting away with it.

That's light years better odds than the lottery.
Posted by Peazey
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 10:07 pm to
I think the idea is that your haul is not going to be relatively that much. From the non-violent financial fraud side of things you can make away with hundreds of thousands+ or even millions. Pretty sure the statistics show that to be the much bigger loss of money to the economy than simple theft like robbing a bank. Also, non-violent crimes like that tend to get handled much less harshly. You have dudes out there that defrauded and stole tens of millions of dollars who only go to jail for a handful of years. Your drug addict robbing a bank for a couple thousand dollars can get the next 10 locked up.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 10:08 pm
Posted by StrangeBrew
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 10:08 pm to
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$1900 in clean money daily.


Less than I currently make with no chance of going to jail, so there is that!
Posted by pngtiger
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:03 pm to
In the past 5 years, there was a bank robbery around where I lived in Georgia, well ATM robbery. There was nearby road work going on. The guys stole a front end loader and a dump truck. They wore masks and had all other parts of their body covered. Used the front end loader to pull up the machine and load it into the truck, then took off.

Police had no leads. My wife worked at another branch of the same bank, said they weren’t even plans to go after the robbers.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:39 pm to
No, killing a police officer is.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24350 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:41 pm to
Just use a mask and a coke machine to launder money. Then resale all of your coke products on Amazon. Duhhhhhhhhh
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:15 am to
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"We prayed that the policemen didn't get hurt and that the robbers learned from their mistakes," third-grader Sarah Whitty said.


Why do we teach kids this shite? Thieves should have their hands cut off, they don't learn.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:26 am to
Sounds like the one that occurred in Columbia, La.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:33 am to
People get away with it more than they tell us about
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:34 am to
Texas Monthly has a great article about a series of Houston armored car robberies. The robbers would immediately shoot the guard outside the truck and haul arse with the money. Would probably still be doing it except someone inside gave the cops a tip.

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Beginning in 2015, Houston was plagued by a series of brutal armored car robberies that bewildered FBI agents for nearly two years. To finally bring down the unassuming mastermind behind it all, the agents had to stage an elaborate trap—and catch him in the act.


It's a hell of a story about how the robbers pulled it off and how the cops solved it.

The Doting Boyfriend Who Robbed Armored Cars
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19537 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:39 am to
There's money in banks, so it's not stupid to try.

Robbing a homeless shelter is much dumber.
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2683 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:02 am to
Go watch the movie Inside Man. If I robbed one, I would use that plot.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15565 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:16 am to
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Federal Prison > Angola


Not a bad idea, just don't get shot. Beats living under a highway and being homeless. Food a few times a day, free healthcare.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:35 am to
Armored car robberies are very common here in Houston. They tend to get caught though (inside job naturally).

It’s always the disgruntled fat guy who got fired for being late all the time haha
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47507 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:44 am to
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Some dumbass stole my credit card number and paid their bills with it. AT&T, Entergy etc


For sure.
Remember last month I made a thread about the first CC theft issue I've ever encountered?
Someone got my CC information and paid a $614 Entergy bill. I got it fixed right away and new card issued. But they can pull that shite quickly without ever having a physical card.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19251 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:59 am to
The city court clerk of my hometown is in the police station. Some guy thought it was a great idea to try and Rob the clerk one day a few years ago after traffic court. That is a good idea because that's when they have the most money. I guess he didn't think about the whole building being full of cops though.
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