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re: Is it better to rent or buy a house

Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:46 am to
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:46 am to
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knowing that it has been making me money just sitting here.


Unless you paid cash up front and have minimal maintenance/holding/repair costs, houses held for long term are typically money losers. For many, it loses less money than renting. In that case it is a good choice.

But housing is a living "cost." You don't make money by just living. You have to produce something to make money and that holds true for houses.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 8:47 am
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11471 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:47 am to
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Unless you paid cash up front and have minimal maintenance costs, houses held for long term are typically money losers. For many, it loses less money than renting. In that case it is a good choice.



I love when people say I made money on my house. I bought for $x and sold for a profit. I say what did you pay in interest? What did you pay for that new air conditioner and roof? and on and on.

Houses are not an investment.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30952 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:48 am to
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Depends but inb4 a bunch of financial illeterates tell you rent is throwing money away


Exactly, not even getting into life situations just location factors, I mean is it smart to buy a house if the market is at its peak?

Love all these idiots screaming about never rent or always pay cash....and we wonder why people have little savings. People have no critical thinking skills of financial thinking skills. It's fricking sad.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11471 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:50 am to
The demographics are changing so fast these days in Louisiana. You don't know if you will even want to live in an area in a few years.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36896 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:52 am to
I currently rent my house. I hate it, but it was the best option for me. I wasn't ready to buy and knew I wouldn't be in this location too long.

Posted by Auslander
Chasing the Sun
Member since Jun 2019
311 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:57 am to
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I love when people say I made money on my house. I bought for $x and sold for a profit. I say what did you pay in interest? What did you pay for that new air conditioner and roof? and on and on.

Houses are not an investment.


I think what they are saying is that after X amount years, they have something to show for it; i.e. a house. A house is an investment in which you retain ownership and equity. When you rent, you hold no cards and are just making someone else rich.

Nothing in life is free, so yes, you will have to maintain your house or be forced to pay more than needed. Same thing with your body; keep ignoring that pain and eventually it will get worse.

The problem is that too many people have watched too many house flipping shows and think that they will become instant Rockerfellers in a few years.

Also, there are many loopholes/tax deductions you can make to reduce the financial burden directly incurred by each property. This is what separates the copycats from the professionals
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:58 am to
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Houses are not an investment
What a dumb statement.
Posted by Ben Hur
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2013
888 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:59 am to
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brand new house, first occupant. Now, 2 years later, selling.


A 2 year old house is a tough sell. While the house is still young, it is competing with new construction on the market that has warranties and is slightly more updated.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:59 am to
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Houses are not an investment.


This is a rather stupid blanket statement to make.

Some houses are most certainly an investment. Some aren't.

This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:00 am to
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I think what they are saying is that after X amount years, they have something to show for it


Yeah, in many instances, a check they're writing to sell it.

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A house is an investment


No its not.

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Nothing in life is free, so yes, you will have to maintain your house or be forced to pay more than needed


I don't even know what this is trying to convey

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Also, there are many loopholes/tax deductions you can make to reduce the financial burden directly incurred by each property. This is what separates the copycats from the professionals



Now you're talking about rentals, I think, but I'm not sure because this doesn't make much sense either.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:01 am to
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A house is an investment


No its not.
yikes
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:01 am to
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Houses are not an investment


What a dumb statement.


It's technically an investment, I guess, just many times a bad one and it's pretty clear going into it.

Looking at housing as an essential cost and not an investment is how you are going to build real wealth not thinking you're rich because you're house poor.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:03 am
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72587 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:02 am to
I really thought this know-it-all, contrarian schtick wouldn't get old for a while longer.

I was wrong.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:02 am to
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No its not.



Please explain why a house is never an investment, since this seems to be the blanket statement you're making.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:03 am to
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It's technically an investment, I guess, just many times a bad one and it's pretty clear going into it.
It can certainly be a bad investment. Real estate in general is an appreciating asset. That doesn't mean every real estate purchase is a good investment or that all real estate will always appreciate. There are lots of factors to consider with every real estate purchase and every buyer to determine whether the investment is sound.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:05 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:03 am to
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Please explain why a house is never an investment, since this seems to be the blanket statement you're making.



It's an essential cost, no matter what 100% of the time you are paying for housing. Making or retaining a value on that cost is a plus, but it's not an investment.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:04 am
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
84986 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:14 am to
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A 2 year old house is a tough sell. While the house is still young, it is competing with new construction on the market that has warranties and is slightly more updated.

True, and good points.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72587 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:20 am to
Y'all thought about keeping it for a few years and renting it out? Let it hopefully appreciate and get someone to pay a huge portion of the house payment for you?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17952 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:23 am to
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I love when people say I made money on my house. I bought for $x and sold for a profit. I say what did you pay in interest? What did you pay for that new air conditioner and roof? and on and on.

Houses are not an investment.


Yup. Interest, property taxes, insurance, maintenance, repairs, upgrades, sales fees, etc. It all adds up to a LOT. Very hard to really break even unless you sell a house rather quickly after purchase because the area shot up in value extremely quick.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
16956 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:24 am to
My dad has always had a saying that if it flies, fricks, goes fast, or floats,

RENT IT
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