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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

Posted on 5/23/22 at 3:40 am to
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 3:40 am to
My friends Daughter thinks she should get $15.00 an hour to babysit... She has another friend who wants 22.00 an hour. Yes.. They are retarded.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:54 am to
My sisters got $10 an hour to babysit back in 2000-2004

So 20 years later, what exactly do you think it’s worth?

Maybe you are the one “retarded”

This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 6:57 am
Posted by GhostofLesticleMiles
High Plains Drifter
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:27 am to
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What is our government mostly made of?


Yes, you would be correct in saying that the figure heads are boomers, but all in the back ground doing all the work is 20-30 somethings. If you don't believe that they don't have some type of influence on policy, well then.... I have some ocean front property to sale you in Arizona.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:34 am to
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You’re asking if they’re “retarded” for not wanting to make $30k a year?


With the benefits listed in the OP that’s easily worth $50k a year. Wait till those shitstains have a couple kids and realize that health insurance can be more important than salary.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:34 am to
They are working the demand part of the equation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:36 am to
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So 20 years later, what exactly do you think it’s worth?

Whatever the babysitter and the parent agree upon.

Wages aren't arbitrary. My oldest daughter got $100 for 3 hours in 1998, but that doesn't mean its' prevailing wage.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:37 am to
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Wait till those shitstains have a couple kids


I don't believe these people are that grown up. They're the incels of the world.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41549 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:43 am to
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These kids expect $25 hr+ to do menial tasks in an entry level warehouse position. I said what about the benefits? No care, it's all about their paycheck every 2 weeks.


We get it. You started out in that job at $4 an hour back in the 80's. Time goes on, old man. Everything costs more now.

If you can't keep the position filled, there's a good chance you're not paying enough.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:44 am to
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Time goes on, old man. Everything costs more now.


If anyone would know, its people who have been here from the 80s to the present.

We've probably been through double the economic downturns that you have.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38054 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:48 am to
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20 years ago


man way too many people in this thread are out of touch unfortunately because of this.

labor is expensive as frick right now and long time employees either need to realize that or take advantage of the situation and get another offer.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:52 am to
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labor is expensive as frick right now and long time employees either need to realize that or take advantage of the situation and get another offer.



Which is one reason for the pending recession. When labor is expensive, less is purchased.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41549 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:53 am to
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If anyone would know, its people who have been here from the 80s to the present.

We've probably been through double the economic downturns that you have.


You're certainly right about that.

My background was in the HVAC trade and residential/light commercial construction. I'm not a tradesman now, but I work with welders and mechanics now.

These are guys that have seen their wages frozen since the 80's. A lot of them have Gen Z kids, and they probably tell them to make decisions about money first.

I wish my parents had given me that kind of advice.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:58 am to
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My friends Daughter thinks she should get $15.00 an hour to babysit... She has another friend who wants 22.00 an hour. Yes.. They are retarded.


The one who wants $22 better add a bunch of value.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:59 am to
I mean, I didn’t really give a shite about benefits when I was in my early 20’s, other than vacation/PTO time.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:00 am to
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I mean, I didn’t really give a shite about benefits when I was in my early 20’s, other than vacation/PTO time.


Most don't (Myself included) until the hospital bill comes due.

Benefits like insurance were added to wage packages when the gubment froze wages during WWII. I'd wait to see how this looming recession shakes out, I have a feeling things are going to change.

20 somethings are shortsighted, yes. We all were.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 8:02 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60684 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:02 am to
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I mean, I didn’t really give a shite about benefits when I was in my early 20’s, other than vacation/PTO time.

no one cares about benefits at $15/hour in 2022. at that point, every single day is a struggle and you're just praying your car doesn't break down
Posted by Prowler257
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:02 am to
Since when do HS students have student loans?
Posted by Palantir
I've been a Columbia House
Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:04 am to
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What is the realistic manual labor rate for people with zero college hours?
As a picker/puller?

I can tell you this...just one really good picker/puller in a warehouse environment that you can trust, gets there every day on time, willing to help in other areas, and works to be better, etc. is worth every bit of 3 "regular Joes" in the same position. $25/hr is a fricking steal for those kinds of people, and I don't care how many college hours they've accrued
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:06 am to
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$25/hr is a fricking steal for those kinds of people


yep, which is why I believe in merit pay.

Good employees should be well paid, shitty ones shouldn't. Arbitrary wages are dumb.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84725 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:09 am to
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Mainly caused by our government.


I think this is the crux of it. The high prices and high wages have come so suddenly and not organically that it’s hard for some folk to wrap their heads around. And since it came so quickly it has the feel of a bubble that surely must pop at some point.
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