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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25291 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:47 pm to
Inflation is here to stay.....
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12691 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:48 pm to
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Not necessarily true. But only in certain fields. I know a bunch of people in IT/Security that only have certificates and/or work experience and are making $$$$ without a degree


It’s almost like you assembled a list of possible reasons not end all reasons for every case and I added another reason for some people
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75375 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:51 pm to
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Should mention this warehouse is in the burbs. Not like they need to live in downtown Houston


Conroe?

Facilities guy named Ronnie? Computer girl named Lisa?
Posted by Greenie10
Member since Apr 2019
232 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:52 pm to
Oak Hollow area
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42287 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:53 pm to
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started with my company making $16.00 20 years ago. I think $15.00 is fair for the kinda work you’re talking about but it depends on who you’re asking about the position.


What year?
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13247 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:53 pm to
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Greenie10


Your company needs to reconsider its compensation structure for young employees.

Do you really think someone on only $15/hr is going to take advantage of car discounts and a 6% 401K match?

Hell I’m 25 making close to $100K total comp, and I don’t contribute 6% because I feel I have to save a ton outside of retirement to ever have a chance to afford a house down payment.

It’s crazy how out of touch people are on inflation.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:54 pm to
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IQ's are starting to drop in many developed countries. Not sure if this is a real phenomenon or just the massive influx of immigrants.
At the school that I taught at, immigrants and second generation American students out performed the American kids and had a better work ethic. These weren't Somali refugees though.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53535 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:54 pm to
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In reality, no one will take that $15 an hour job because they can't make a living on it today.

Could you have walked out of HS and into a job where you could afford to live on your own and take care of yourself? I don't think I could have in the 90s.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299689 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:54 pm to
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Instantly self-supporting isn't too big an ask, is it?


Depends on the value you bring to the table.

That on you.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:55 pm to
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Hell I’m 25 making close to $100K total comp, and I don’t contribute 6%


HUGE mistake. 100% return instantly plus time value of money.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75375 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:55 pm to
Zillow search for rentals in Conroe-

Fourth result- 2 bd apartment for $1149. Riverwalk.

With a roommate, $574/m.

With a badass pool too.

There's probably better deals too.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Could you have walked out of HS and into a job where you could afford to live on your own and take care of yourself?


You can't afford to live with someone else and take care of yourself on $15/hour.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:58 pm to
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Depends on the value you bring to the table.

That on you.

OP says the company can't fill the position. That's on them.

My suggestion is to offer self-supporting wages. This is not difficult.
Posted by McCorkleJonesGOAT
Member since Apr 2022
362 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:58 pm to
Yeah posting a paragraph for a non-socialist NEET means it is unreadable for most of gen z
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6816 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:58 pm to
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I just wouldn't value health insurance really.


Few value health insurance until they need it.

Many 20-somethings only see insurance in term of illness and never injury.

No one ever plans to get into a car wreck and spend 6 weeks in ICU and 9months in rehab.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 2:59 pm to
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Zillow search for rentals in Conroe-

Fourth result- 2 bd apartment for $1149. Riverwalk.

With a roommate, $574/m.



$100 a month for utilities, which is low.

Plus cell phone, coverage only no monthly payment for phone. $30

Groceries - $200

Gas - $200

Misc - $250

You'd have about $900 a month left over before any taxes taken out or insurance premiums, etc. And all of my estimates are likely low, with no car payment or disposable spending.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted by exiledhogfan
Missouri
Member since Jul 2021
1334 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:00 pm to
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The benefits probably add at least another $15k to the starting wage. I guess I was different when I was in my early 20's b/c I valued getting in with a good company and working my way up. Didn't want to be a 22 yr old working in fast food.


You could live in those days. Now, not so much.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53535 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:00 pm to
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You can't afford to live with someone else and take care of yourself on $15/hour.

I mostly agree but thinking back on it, I couldn't have found a job right out of HS that would have paid me enough to take care of myself in 1996 either. Maybe with 2 roommates.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11788 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Groceries - $200


This is not realistic whatsoever.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23224 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:01 pm to
Awww, sweet stories, Ma'am. It's always touching when an older couple is able to sit and reminisce about their early days and the stories passed on to them by their parents and grandparents, and how they passed on having children in order to pay for vacations. Really touching.

But it's all irrelevant to the topic at hand, which is that the OP's offer is not viable for a single adult in the market where the job is posted, let alone competitive for good workers who can pass drug and background checks.

If the offer was competitive, it would've been filled pretty quickly in a city with a daily influx of people moving here for work.
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