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re: Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?

Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:12 pm to
Surviving Christmas
Home Alone
Christmas with the Kranks
Christmas Vacation
Just Friends

All would be basically the same movie if they simply changed the name, and changed the calendar from Christmas to Thanksgiving.

No one would argue those aren't Christmas movies, yet people often use that same logic to argue Die Hard is NOT a Christmas movie, which is ridiculous on its face. Watching that movie, it is so blatantly obvious that it is a Christmas movie that one has to construct some magnificently contrived "hot take" in order to explain how it isn't.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 12:17 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122111 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:13 pm to
This argument is worn out. If you want it to be a Christmas movie, it's a Christmas movie, if you don't then it's not.

Gremlins is a Christmas movie, however.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40323 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:15 pm to
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There are a million reasons why it isn’t. People who say it is are dumb or trolling.



Id love to hear the argument that makes home alone a Christmas and die hard not.

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:15 pm to
This Christmas tree ornament says it is.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70438 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Id love to hear the argument that makes home alone a Christmas and die hard not.


This
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122111 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:20 pm to
Here Bruce Willis says it's not a Christmas movie, its a Bruce fricking Willis movie..

LINK
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31550 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:20 pm to
Is Home Alone a Christmas movie?

Because Die Hard is adult Home Alone.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:21 pm to
Yippee kai yay mother fricker

It’s not Christmas until I see Hans Gruber fall from the Nakatomi Tower.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37872 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:35 pm to
No.

It’s a movie set at Christmas time

quote:

Gremlins


See above
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 12:36 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:39 pm to
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Is Home Alone a Christmas movie? Because Die Hard is adult Home Alone.


fricking bingo
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40323 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:41 pm to
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It’s a movie set at Christmas time



So what exactly makes a Christmas movie then
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28007 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:41 pm to
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Id love to hear the argument that makes home alone a Christmas and die hard not.
I’d say the Christmas themes in Home Alone are a lot more prevalent than in Die Hard.

I mean other than the movie Die Hard taking place during an office Christmas party and the Ho-ho-ho reference, there isn’t anything Christmas at all.

Home Alone has much stronger Christmas themes from the start when the family is going on Christmas vacation, to all of the Christmas visuals such as the neighborhood with Christmas lights and snow, him hiding in the nativity scene, watching the Grinch on TV, playing “Rocking Around the Christmas Tree” while setting up the diversion, playing the Christmas music in the van with John Candy, Kevin meeting Santa Claus telling him instead of presents he wants his family back, Kevin going into the church with the choir singing Christmas music and talking with the old man, even the theme song has sleigh bells in it.

Die Hard seemed to just happen to take place during a Christmas party whereas Home Alone made Christmas an integral theme in the movie.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:54 pm to
yes
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40323 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Home Alone has much stronger Christmas themes from the start when the family is going on Christmas vacation, to all of the Christmas visuals such as the neighborhood with Christmas lights and snow, him hiding in the nativity scene, watching the Grinch on TV, playing “Rocking Around the Christmas Tree” while setting up the diversion, playing the Christmas music in the van with John Candy, Kevin meeting Santa Claus telling him instead of presents he wants his family back, Kevin going into the church with the choir singing Christmas music and talking with the old man, even the theme song has sleigh bells in it.


You could move the setting to Labor Day or Fourth of July and nothing really changes in home alone.

The entire reason John McClain is in LA is to visit his estranged wife and kids for the Christmas holiday. The events in the movie bring him and his wife closer albeit in an unhealthy fashion, But can we really argue that Kevin leaves the events of home alone without PTSD?

Both of the sets of villains plan around christmas.
Songs: you missed run dmc, let it snow and the song they play when the vault opens.

Both movies use Christmas as a plot devise.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

kywildcatfanone


quote:

No




ETA: And Hook Em Horns
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11886 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:15 pm to
Yes
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23191 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:56 pm to
Is “it’s cold outside” a Christmas song or simply a rape song?

Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
59311 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:04 pm to
Hey numbnuts, the writer/creator of the Die Hard universe says it is.

ESPN link

quote:

But the argument was reignited this summer when Detective John McClane himself, star Bruce Willis, at the end of his Comedy Central roast, said, "Die Hard is not a Christmas movie. It's a goddamn Bruce Willis movie."
Clearly that was in jest.



quote:

Because the man who created the world of "Die Hard," screenwriter Steven E. de Souza, said it was a Christmas movie. He has said it many times, in many interviews and in many tweets, including this one, where he even made a handy chart to compare "Die Hard" to "White Christmas":


Link to the tweet.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:23 pm to
yep, until they stop showing it only at christmas time it will always be, its just not a happy christmas story movie
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28007 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:32 pm to
quote:


You could move the setting to Labor Day or Fourth of July and nothing really changes in home alone.

The entire reason John McClain is in LA is to visit his estranged wife and kids for the Christmas holiday. The events in the movie bring him and his wife closer albeit in an unhealthy fashion, But can we really argue that Kevin leaves the events of home alone without PTSD?

Both of the sets of villains plan around christmas.
Songs: you missed run dmc, let it snow and the song they play when the vault opens.

Both movies use Christmas as a plot devise.
I don’t know... if you got up to pee real quick and missed the Ho-ho-ho elevator part of Die Hard, you’d probably forget the movie has anything to do with Christmas at all.

Whereas with Home Alone, it’s Christmas scene after Christmas scene throughout the whole movie.
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