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Is committing suicide by someone who has suffered tremendous loss excusable?

Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:05 pm
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:05 pm
Instead of the normal “it’s selfish” responses, or is it still selfish in your opinion? I am talking about someone who lost their wife and kids or a similar level of loss. This was a pretty brutal debate at lunch today.
Posted by heatom2
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:05 pm to
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“it’s selfish”


Anyone who responds this way to a suicide is a fricking idiot.
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:06 pm to
I'd give a pass to a man or woman that lost his children or spouse.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:08 pm to
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Anyone who responds this way to a suicide is a fricking idiot.


I agree that people who respond this way to suicide are assholes... but that doesn’t mean it’s not selfish. It’s pretty much the most selfish decision anyone could make. Having said that, I can certainly empathize with people who are feeling that low. I can’t imagine having to deal with that kind of hurt and depression.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 7:09 pm
Posted by bucknut15
Columbus
Member since Nov 2015
721 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:08 pm to
Yep, if you can go against all basic human survival instinct and want to kill yourself, then you are clearly in a very sick mental mindset that most of us will fortunately never understand. Your an idiot if you think its selfish.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44108 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:10 pm to
We only get one chance at life. Then its eternal nothingness.

I just cant fathom purposely ending my life for any reason. I want to live to 100 and see crazy shite.

I have no wife or kids so take it fwiw


Point being its just something most people cant relate to and its tough to comment on or even consider
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 7:13 pm
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:10 pm to
Not excusable if you have children.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36072 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:11 pm to
I struggle with the concept of human freedom vs. the inherent value of human life. I can't put myself in the position of someone who has lost their family, nor am I in a position to judge him or her. However, my religious beliefs teach me that all life is valuable, and that anyone's death will affect others.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:12 pm to
I don't know how people live after losing a child. I don't think I could.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:12 pm to
It is absolutely a selfish act.
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2794 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:12 pm to
Guy I knew well in high school recently killed himself.

He watched his mom suffer horribly from Huntington’s Disease while growing up. He was recently diagnosed with it. Chose to kill himself. Wasn’t married and didn’t have kids.

I don’t know that I wouldn’t have made the same choice
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32506 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:13 pm to
I wouldn't say it's "excusable", but it's more understandable.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:13 pm to
If I lost my wife and kids I’d check out too

But first I’d go get a bunch of hookers and blow
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3797 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:13 pm to
Excusable?

Understandable, maybe.

Excusable? No, not by the way the question was posed. But not sure it’s the word I’d describe it.

What about a POW? Or the couple in Joshua Tree? Where do they fall on this perverbial suicide scale?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:15 pm to
Understandable yes, excusable, no.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17015 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:15 pm to
That’s honestly a very tough question to answer.

I don’t really think there is a right answer here.

Tons of variables involved
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:15 pm to
Thou shalt not judge
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 8:00 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:16 pm to
I struggled when they discontinued little debbie apple flips.
Posted by georgia
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:18 pm to
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I don't know how people live after losing a child. I don't think I could.


I watched a very good friend bury her 15 year old son last year, who was one of my sons best friends, and I have never seen so much grief in one place, it was almost tangible, and I knew in that moment that if I lost my son I’d be done for, I’m not that strong.
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