re: Is committing suicide by someone who has suffered tremendous loss excusable?

No one was asked to be born. For some, life is a gift. For others, life is pain. It's too complex an issue to blame anyone for their decision. I do believe leaving others behind that depend on you or that you brought into this world is very upsetting.

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I'd give a pass to a man or woman that lost his children or spouse.

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My grandmother lost her husband and two children in a car wreck before she met my grandfather. Couldn’t imagine. I never knew until I was a teenager.

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well im gonna go way out on a limb here, and say, the person who just committed suicide does give a flying frick what you think about, or if you approve of their decision, one way or the other, since its not up to you.

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I think this is the definition of selfish?

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self·ish
'selfiSH/Submit
adjective
(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

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With that being said, if it involves a terminal illness and tremendous physical suffering, I can understand. To commit suicide because you have lost someone, wife children or both, but leave behind other family members to now deal with the same loss, I consider that selfish.

Only God knows. NO ONE HAS THAT ANSWER! All else will be opinions.

My best friend killed himself, four of my friends and an elderly couple in a car crash. I was supposed to be with them and the guilt I felt at thinking "if I'd been with them this wouldn't have happened" was soul crushing agony. It took therapy and hypnosis to bring me back from the abyss and I thank God for tge professor who recognized my problem and helped guide me to seek help. My parents were unaware of how deep my depression was as I was away in school and they didn't see me.

I guess it’s human nature to pass judgment on someone who has already condemned their own life, but it seems rather pointless. Perhaps prayers for the surviving family and friends would be a better use of our time.

My grandfather killed himself in 1952. He was a WW2 vet who was on a ship that was kamikazed and was stranded at sea for 2 days before he was rescued and served a total of 2.5 years in that terrible war.

Did (what we now know as PTSD) have anything to do with him using a shotgun to blow his brains out in 1952 and my 9 year old father was the first to see the aftermath? It's impossible to say, but I know my father and his mother and siblings carried that weight throughout their lives.

But I see the other side too. Why should he have to silently suffer in this world when the relief (as he saw it) was on the other end of that Remington shotgun?

I work as a paramedic now and know what that kind of wound looks like peri to post mortem. I saw a shotgun suicide about 8 years ago that made me think this is what my father saw: only the lower jaw, and bottom of the occipital head/ brain remained intact to the body. The rest was splattered on the nearby walls. I wasn't ok with seeing that as a medical professional to a stranger at age 28, so i cant imagine how this damages a 9 year old seeing this happen to his father.

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It is absolutely a selfish act.

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It's rather arrogant to judge any person who commits suicide. You have no idea what kind of crap they are going through or what kind of mental state they are in when they do it. I've never judged those people because I know things must be beyond bad for them to have the nerve to do something that extreme. There's no way I could do it.