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re: Is committing suicide by someone who has suffered tremendous loss excusable?

Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:19 pm to
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they discontinued little debbie apple flips.



WHY??? Damn you cruel world.
Posted by IonaTiger
The Commonwealth Of Virginia
Member since Mar 2006
33355 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:19 pm to
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I don't know how people live after losing a child. I don't think I could.


Parents, siblings, relatives, and friends do it every day. They are just never the same.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109012 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:23 pm to
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I don't know how people live after losing a child. I don't think I could.


My Mom had a full on break down when my little brother died. It took a lot of therapy, support, and medication for her to get to a point that she didn't want to kill herself.

I can honestly say I wouldn't have blamed her if she had.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:23 pm to
I've never been suicidal, but I've been seriously clinically depressed. You don't think correctly, and if you don't have people on your life I can easily understand it spiraling out of control.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 7:25 pm
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:23 pm to
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I struggled when they discontinued little debbie apple flips.


Sorry, that was my decision. Just in case you needed someone to blame.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80857 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:29 pm to
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I am talking about someone who lost their wife and kids

Of course it's excusable. I wouldn't think any less of them. Clowns in here post stupid shite because they can't actually understand that pain. It has to be devastating.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49697 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:31 pm to
So you aren't going to excuse him?

I'm sure he's not worried about what you or anyone on a ,estate board thinks.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:32 pm to
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I can certainly empathize with people who are feeling that low.


quote:

I can’t imagine having to deal with that kind of hurt and depression.


fricking gold.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109012 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:33 pm to
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bullshite. It is the epitome of selfishness.


People should be called out on this shitty kind of response with regularity. Such basic thinking when it comes to such a complex subject (mental health).
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40527 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:34 pm to
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bullshite. It is the epitome of selfishness.



Expecting someone to live in complete misery just so you don't have to miss them makes you the selfish one.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:36 pm to
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that was my decision. Just in case you needed someone to blame.




Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40527 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:37 pm to
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People should be called out on this shitty kind of response with regularity. Such basic thinking when it comes to such a complex subject (mental health).


This, too.

Clearly anyone who can take their own life is in a mental state that most of us cannot pretend to understand.

To throw labels around like "selfish" in regards to someone who was so mentally broken that they overrode their own instinct for survival is just short-sighted and illogical.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80857 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:37 pm to
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Expecting someone to live in complete misery just so you don't have to miss them makes you the selfish one.
That and the fact that their thinking is usually damaged to the point that they actually believe they are doing those close to them a favor by suiciding. They are convinced others will be better once they are gone.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112946 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:37 pm to
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Anyone who responds this way to a suicide is a fricking idiot.

Preach, but sooooo many OTers will say just that.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:39 pm to
Suicide is a mortal sin, so not excusable.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112946 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:40 pm to
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I don't know how people live after losing a child. I don't think I could.

My boys are 6 now, and I swear I don't think I ever gave it any thought before, but for some reason(nothing at all really triggered it) I've thought about it a lot lately.

Just can't fathom it. If it were both of them...forget it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112946 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:44 pm to
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People should be called out
Call em on it, sure. But there's really no need to engage in a back and forth with them because:

quote:

Such basic thinking
Posted by LSUballs
P.A.I.G
Member since Feb 2008
40411 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:46 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 8:00 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:46 pm to
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Suicide is a mortal sin, so not excusable.


It's painless..and it brings on many changes.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109012 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

You should shut the frick up.


Nah. Given your elementary response, you should probably take your own advice though.
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