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Is being against Gentrification the same as being racist?

Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:57 am
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4957 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:57 am
If a majority white neighborhood doesn't want other races moving in and work together toward keeping it majority white, that is racist.

If a majority black area has people of other races moving into it it's called gentrification. If the blacks in that area are against gentrification and their leaders work toward keeping it that way is that racist as well?

Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25349 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 9:59 am to
If you haven't learned by this point in your life that nothing anyone but whites do is racist, then we really can't help you.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11625 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Is being against Gentrification the same as being racist?

You mean having higher property taxes to increase the value of homes and make available better infrastructure for the community?

So now wanting to live somewhere nice and have your home value increase is racist?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:00 am to
yes Gary Chambers is a huge racist

quote:

I'm disappointed in several black metro council members tonight. They continue to vote for projects that don't help us address the concerns of north Baton Rouge and will lead to the gentrification of Old South Baton Rouge. The approval of $10 million for the "Tram" in downtown Baton Rouge is shameful. I personally reached out to 7 metro council members. The white council members explained their positions and I understand that, but for the black council members we keep supporting projects that won't help our communities. It's shameful. Don't let them convince you otherwise. I'll be writing on the issue shortly.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:01 am to
its a class thing. so, not necessarily.

This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 10:01 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:01 am to
Seriously, it's not that hard to understand.

If you're white, you're a racist.

If you're not white, you're good.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:01 am to
One thing increases property value on average, the other decreases property value on average.

I’ll never understand why people get upset at gentrification when people in their own community elected to sell their own houses for a huge profit. No one came in and made them sell their house. And it makes the people who remain in the neighborhood wealthier by increasing their property value.

Its all so stupid.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:01 am to
I think you can be against gentrification and not be racist. I am not anti-gentrification, but it does have an impact on local businesses. Some people just make very emotional arguments when they see their local businesses affected, and race is a very easy thing to attack with.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86692 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:03 am to
well gentrification doesn't really have anything to do with race, but moreso affluence

now typically, neighborhoods that become gentrified, especially here, are black neighborhoods, but I don't know if it is that they do not want white people moving in, or they are just afraid that the gentrification will eventually price them out and force them to move

same goes for white not wanting other races moving into their neighborhood, do they care if the other races are affluent? or do they care about the other races only when they bring down the neighborhood by adding crime and blight?

basically neither driving force is 100% race, but economical

race is just the low hanging fruit to grab a hold to and rail against
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
91088 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

its a class thing. so, not necessarily.


Definitely this. It's about social standing more than color.

It just so happens that most gentrifcation areas are in urban/city settings, which naturally means that a lot of those populations will be blacks.

I'm sure some podunk trailer park town out in the country wouldn't want a bunch of fancy city folk moving into their town either, but nobody is wanting to move into those areas anyway.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:04 am to
quote:

If the blacks in that area are against gentrification and their leaders work toward keeping it that way is that racist as well?


They arent, in fact its pretty common when we are rehabing a house to have long time neighborhood residents come look at the project and express their gratitude for making the neighborhood better.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10414 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:04 am to
I thought it was whitey's fault for moving to the suburbs? Now, we're moving back and gentrifying communities and it's our fault again?

Where are we supposed to live?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
91088 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:05 am to
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Where are we supposed to live?


out in the country apparently.
Posted by Too Soon625
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
341 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:18 am to
quote:

If a majority black area has people of other races moving into it it's called gentrification.


This is how I know that you have no idea what you are talking about when discussing gentrification.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:22 am to
quote:

If a majority black area has people of other races moving into it it's called gentrification.



That's not what gentrification means.

When the poorer neighborhoods are improved, businesses start moving in, upscale residences are built, and the people there get priced out of their own neighborhoods. THAT is why they get angry.

I'm not against gentrification, but your definition is way off.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36411 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:23 am to
Are you inferring that black people are racist in that situation?

Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:27 am to
Assuming the person is white, then yes, being against gentrification is racist... but being for gentrification is also racist.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:27 am to
quote:

If you haven't learned by this point in your life that nothing anyone but whites do is racist, then we really can't help you.
I feel you, it really us tough for us white males in America.

I don't know how I make it day to day based on my gender and skin color.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13572 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:34 am to
On a similar note, I live in a lilywhite suburb of Birmingham. There is about to be a massive new construction neighborhood going up across the street. The way the lines were drawn, my stretch of the street is one city, across an intersection is another city, and across the street was unincorporated. There was a big fuss about my city annexing the property, and lots of confusion about what was going there, if annexed. Turns out it is a builder who actually lives in our neighborhood, and they're putting in about 45 homes that will start at $500k and max out in the mid $600s.

Of course everyone is complaining on the facebook groups about it, and how it is going to be a nightmare dealing with the construction. And they don't even live across the street. Yeah, it is going to suck for a couple of years while they're working on it all, but it will instantly raise everyone's property value. Houses along our street sell for around $250-350k. Suck it up and when you decide to move in 5 years and get an extra 30% on the sale, be happy.

View from my front yard. 3 weeks ago this was nothing but pines and oaks and a bunch of brush.

Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Is being against Gentrification the same as being racist?


No. Not recognizing that change in neighborhoods over time is inevitable is kind of stupid though.
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