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re: Is anyone else sick of gen z and millennials poor me attitude?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:47 am to lsu777
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:47 am to lsu777
No he didn't, he made a bunch of shite up, even called rural towns racist. Dude is just as bad as the belly aching Boomer OP. fricking millennial apologist.
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Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:51 am to EarlyCuyler3
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So because their parents and teachers and elders told them this from a very early age, they are at fault for believing them?
And their parents were boomers?
I heard the same thing and chose the military, a STEM major, and my own small business. I seem to remember tooking at those charts of average salaries and seeing that the STEM ones dominated the top. Not sure what chart you idiots were looking at but English, Sociology, Music, and History, and Teacher were all pretty much at the bottom or middling. I also remember being told about trade and technical schools but my Boomer parents must have been that much better than yours.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:52 am to Clames
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Another consequence of poor choices.
Millennials and Gen Z cohorts imagine they should be able to move from one easily commoditized job to another whenever they get bored with their current situation, what they don't understand is that constant job hopping has a bigger impact on wage stagnation than they imagine. Why should a business invest higher wages in personnel that have a tendency to move on after a few years anyway? Is it the businesses' fault a 20's or early 30's something adult is willing to accept equal or even slightly lesser wages for a given job because said adult wanted a change of scenery?
Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back this up?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:52 am to MSTiger33
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I listened to my plumber bitch about this the other day. He said he can’t find any help because few people are going into the trade and opting for some
Bull shite degree in college. He said he is swamped with work. Paid him $2,500 with about $700 of it in labor.
I remember really thinking I'd prefer an office job over a trade or manual labor when I was young. I don't feel that way anymore. I'd much rather do oil changes or push grocery buggies around all day than sit in an office. I hate doing business shite like thinking, being responsible for things/people long-term, going to meetings, etc.
The problem is the money. Yes, I know a master plumber probably makes nearly as much as I do, especially if he owns a business, but that's pretty much his ceiling. And his helpers, etc. aren't making jack.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:53 am to EarlyCuyler3
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It's not possible to enjoy the same standard of living now as it was then on one income for the majority of families.
The expected standard of living is vastly higher now.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:54 am to hubertcumberdale
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Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back this up?
He doesn't.
It is just the same, tired old talking points that always come up in these threads.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:55 am to Clames
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I heard the same thing and chose the military, a STEM major, and my own small business. I seem to remember tooking at those charts of average salaries and seeing that the STEM ones dominated the top. Not sure what chart you idiots were looking at but English, Sociology, Music, and History, and Teacher were all pretty much at the bottom or middling. I also remember being told about trade and technical schools but my Boomer parents must have been that much better than yours.
The main difference is the competition in the workplace. Boomers with college degrees had little to no competition and could basically walk up to a job and get hired on the spot.
Today the market is saturated with college grads and most decent jobs require 5 rounds of interviews with stringent competency tests. The workforce is nothing like it was 40-50 years ago
ETA: I also have a STEM degree and own my own business
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 10:57 am
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:07 am to Clames
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what they don't understand is that constant job hopping has a bigger impact on wage stagnation than they imagine.
I’m pretty sure it’s is the opposite. The biggest raises almost always come from switching jobs.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:11 am to Clames
Yes, because companies are so loyal these days. They want a two week notice to quit when they can lay you off with no warning while you still have work on your desk.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 11:12 am
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:12 am to AllDayEveryDay
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No he didn't, he made a bunch of shite up, even called rural towns racist. Dude is just as bad as the belly aching Boomer OP. fricking millennial apologist.
oh yea
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unwilling to move to rural America where the jobs are
What jobs? Boomers sold their family farms to international corporations. Boomers in the rural areas are not exactly welcoming, especially if people look different than they do.
where? saying that boomers arent welcoming....well have you been around older people that are in small towns?
doesnt mean they believe one race is superior to another, but they are not always the most welcoming, especially outside of the south.
what did he make up btw
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:14 am to Clames
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I heard the same thing and chose the military, a STEM major, and my own small business. I seem to remember tooking at those charts of average salaries and seeing that the STEM ones dominated the top. Not sure what chart you idiots were looking at but English, Sociology, Music, and History, and Teacher were all pretty much at the bottom or middling. I also remember being told about trade and technical schools but my Boomer parents must have been that much better than yours.
i have great boomer parents too...but my dads sisters, older ones.....well they are typical boomers.
dont mistake your good parenting as the norm, i have come to find out...its not.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:32 am to Pesci_Avocado
Yes every generation becomes less manly and more pussyfied. Human nature
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:39 am to Clames
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Another consequence of poor choices.
Agreed. Except those choices were made by boomers.
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Millennials and Gen Z cohorts imagine they should be able to move from one easily commoditized job to another whenever they get bored with their current situation, what they don't understand is that constant job hopping has a bigger impact on wage stagnation than they imagine. Why should a business invest higher wages in personnel that have a tendency to move on after a few years anyway? Is it the businesses' fault a 20's or early 30's something adult is willing to accept equal or even slightly lesser wages for a given job because said adult wanted a change of scenery?
The only way it is possible to get a decent raise anymore is from job hopping. You think they do it because they want to change their lives in a major way frequently?
You have a very antiquated and out of touch view on life.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:43 am to Powerman
What’s wrong with the county is simple. Big business isnt willing to cut their own profits to pay the little guys. Simple as that. At UPS, people get ran off the clock early then the work is never done at the end of the day and management is scurrying around to finish it. They want bonuses so they fudge their numbers to make it look like everything was smooth.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:44 am to EarlyCuyler3
I guess it really isn’t a surprise to me that you’re blaming boomers for your lack of success, financial acumen, and self accountability based on your posting history.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 11:53 am to Klark Kent
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I guess it really isn’t a surprise to me that you’re blaming boomers for your lack of success, financial acumen, and self accountability based on your posting history.
Feel free to show where I'm wrong, but we both know you can't.
I guess this could be where I'd cry like a bitch because you're interjecting into a thread with personal insults, but then again I'm not a bitch like you.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:17 pm to The Spleen
I don’t find it’s the boomers at all - it’s that weird generation before them - the Silent Generation is what I think they’re called.
They’re the ones that have been on congress forever and ruined everything.
They’re the ones that have been on congress forever and ruined everything.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:31 pm to Pesci_Avocado
I'm gen X and my kids range from 12 - 21. I will let them know they need to clean up their attitude. Thanks for the tip 
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:53 pm to DLauw
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I’ve been trying to hire apprentices for years with no luck. Young kids today suck.
How much do you pay? What's the insurance and PTO look like?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 12:59 pm to Pesci_Avocado
Have people not always been sick of this attitude?
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