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re: Is anyone else sick of gen z and millennials poor me attitude?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:09 am to The Spleen
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:09 am to The Spleen
But when it is convenient for the people in charge these days they will have no shame in equating a history degree with one in electrical engineering. It just depends on the circumstances.
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Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:11 am to The Spleen
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Not to mention when boomers graduated college, companies didn't really care what you majored in except for in highly specialized fields
Also doesn't account for many of those same degrees that used to be bachelors degrees are now required to be doctorates. Which means a shite load more of already inflated tuition. This is especially true in medicine.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:31 am to borotiger
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It is 100% possible to own a similar house. The average family had kids sharing a room with bunk beds, one car and one TV.
I get the bunk beds.
But most families have both parents working out of the home - so need two cars.
And a TV is so cheap, I doubt it's impacting house buying decisions.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:32 am to The Spleen
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Not to mention when boomers graduated college, companies didn't really care what you majored in except for in highly specialized fields. All they looked for was a college degree, so you had plenty of people with humanities degrees landing good paying jobs. Those same humanities degrees they like to belittle millenials and gen z for pursuing. My uncle was hired by an insurance company to be an accountant when his degree was in sociology.
And those same companies today are complaining about not being able to hire enough "qualified" grads.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:49 am to LSUFanHouston
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But most families have both parents working out of the home - so need two cars
The post I responded to stated one salary.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:55 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Also doesn't account for many of those same degrees that used to be bachelors degrees are now required to be doctorates.
Millennials and later only have themselves to blame for the dilution of the value of a college degree.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:56 am to borotiger
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The post I responded to stated one salary.
It's still not correct. Wage stagnation has made it impossible.
I suppose if you are trying to argue you can afford the exact same house, then you might have a technicality. But that ignores the fact that the same house is now a dump abs likely in a less safer, more poor neighborhood.
It's not possible to enjoy the same standard of living now as it was then on one income for the majority of families.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:56 am to Clames
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Millennials and later only have themselves to blame for the dilution of the value of a college degree.
How do you figure?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:57 am to borotiger
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It is 100% possible to own a similar house. The average family had kids sharing a room with bunk beds, one car and one TV.
I've told this anecdote before, but:
When I started house shopping and told my parents my budget, they looked at me like I was insane. When I told them that's what the market was, they didn't believe me. So, I asked them what they bought their first house for, and what year that was. I plugged it into an inflation calculator and came away with roughly $76k. I asked them what they thought I could buy for $76k today.
All of a sudden, they thought my budget made complete sense.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:06 am to EarlyCuyler3
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How do you figure?
Because they are the ones that bought into the whole college-degree-at-any-cost mindset. I know this might be difficult for some of you to accept but the Demand-Supply curve applies to degrees as much as it does toilet paper. I have no sympathy for the lazy and now indignant masses that took out loans for worthless degrees, that are complaining about working menial jobs, that believe they are owed anything and everything in life.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:09 am to Clames
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Because they are the ones that bought into the whole college-degree-at-any-cost mindset.
So because their parents and teachers and elders told them this from a very early age, they are at fault for believing them?
And their parents were boomers?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:11 am to EarlyCuyler3
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So because their parents and teachers and elders told them this from a very early age, they are at fault for believing them?
"Yes."
-Baby Boomer Parents
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:14 am to Wally Sparks
He just called boomers stupid, at best, without realizing it.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:26 am to Pesci_Avocado
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millennials
dude im 38 and technically a millennial, i think you have your generations fricking confused you are talking Gen Z.
but the list you just made is 100% true adn almsot 100% the cause of dumbass decisions of the boomer gengeration.
wanna know where gen x parents went wrong? being born to a generation of entitled self servering fricks who hated freedom.
boomer generation has and continue to frick this country. always wanting to send other peoples kids to die for so called freedom. Always willing to spend others money. always voting for dumbass politicians. always wanting to control others.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:28 am to Clames
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that believe they are owed anything and everything in life.
you are talking about boomers, right?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:34 am to LSUFanHouston
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It is 100% possible to own a similar house. The average family had kids sharing a room with bunk beds, one car and one TV.
I get the bunk beds.
But most families have both parents working out of the home - so need two cars.
And a TV is so cheap, I doubt it's impacting house buying decisions.
he is right. as much as i dislike what boomers have done to the country overall...those complaining you cant make it like previous generations could have revisionist history.
go live like its 1980 and you can easily live 1980s middle class lifestyle.
that means a 1500sf house max built in the 80s or 90s or early 2000s houses(80s parents were living on 60's houses). Make sure the house isnt modern in the since that it needs the latest countrtops, appliances etc
go back to home phone service, no cable, no internet, one vehicle. Vacation once a year max at a location within driving distance.
no extra ciricular activites that cost like travel ball etc
only eat out once a week on parents date night. Kids dont get to go to restruants but maybe once a month, max. Cook all meals except maybe pizza one night plus the aforementioned date night.
hunting and fishing...yea do that on free land and fish from small alumnimum boat
sit down as a family to eat dinner nightly, go play in back yard ro ride bikes until time to come in, bath, watch a little family tv for 30 mina nd then everyone off to bed.
it can be done, but got to live like its 1980 and cut out all these modern luxuries that suddenly people feel entitled to.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:34 am to Paul Allen
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Millennials don’t have Gen X parents.
I'm a Millennial and my parents are Gen X.
But I do kind of agree with the sentiment that a lot of millennials and Gen Z have this entitled attitude. I was raised to value accountability and not making excuses for everything, so we're not all like that at least 
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:37 am to Joshjrn
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I've told this anecdote before, but:
When I started house shopping and told my parents my budget, they looked at me like I was insane. When I told them that's what the market was, they didn't believe me. So, I asked them what they bought their first house for, and what year that was. I plugged it into an inflation calculator and came away with roughly $76k. I asked them what they thought I could buy for $76k today.
All of a sudden, they thought my budget made complete sense.
Bad time to be a 30 year old first time home buyer.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:38 am to LSUFanHouston
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Is anyone else sick of gen z and millennials poor me attitude?
Sure, but let's look at some reasons, eh?
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- Crying about working two jobs to get themselves through college and taking on student loans
Well, boomers won't retire, meaning people aren't progressing through the career ladder, meaning there are fewer open "good" jobs. And many jobs have been sent overseas. Plus, boomers pushed them that "you have to go to college to be successful" and signed off on 18 and 19 year olds taking on huge debt. What a boomer parenting failure.
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Can't live in the big city without making any sacrifices like roommates
Boomers run the government, which has artificially kept interest rates low. Low interest rates mean higher costs for building housing, which leads to higher rents. Higher rents plus lower wages = need roommates. Prior generations had roommates in college, not while employed fill time.
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mental illness skyrocketing thanks to social media and isolation due to covid-19 scare tactics
Oh, you mean the scare tactics pushed by the boomer politicians?
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unwilling to learn a trade like plumbing or welding
Boomer parents and guidance counselors told kids that these jobs were beneath them. They told kids you have to go to an expensive four year college if you want to have any success in life.
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unwilling to move to rural America where the jobs are
What jobs? Boomers sold their family farms to international corporations. Boomers in the rural areas are not exactly welcoming, especially if people look different than they do.
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less religious than the previous generation
These people grew up watching priests arrested for diddling kids. They grew up watching all these religious "leaders" talk about family values, and then get found having affairs. They see other religious leaders talk about how we need to sacrifice 10 percent for God, then see these leaders get onto their private jets after leaving their $7 million house.
So yeah, I'm tired of their poor me attitude, but understand that the attitude is 100 percent the fault of the boomers, who are going to have the distinction of creating a worse future.
Dude fricking NAILED IT!!!
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:42 am to EarlyCuyler3
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It's still not correct. Wage stagnation has made it impossible.
Another consequence of poor choices.
Millennials and Gen Z cohorts imagine they should be able to move from one easily commoditized job to another whenever they get bored with their current situation, what they don't understand is that constant job hopping has a bigger impact on wage stagnation than they imagine. Why should a business invest higher wages in personnel that have a tendency to move on after a few years anyway? Is it the businesses' fault a 20's or early 30's something adult is willing to accept equal or even slightly lesser wages for a given job because said adult wanted a change of scenery?
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