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re: Is 30% of gross income still a good benchmark for what to pay in rent?

Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:38 pm to
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Sure, but I'm in Ellick and $1250 gets you a shite hole here. If $1250 gets you a shite hole here, I'd imagine that is the case most places.


Well all of Ellick is a shite hole so…
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:42 pm to
30% of gross probably lands you 50% of take home. That’s not leaving much wiggle unless you have a high income.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29288 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:43 pm to
I’m an agent and help some friends with their rentals, as a rule of most look for 1/3 rent to income ratio if solo.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:45 pm to
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A mortgage should not exceed 25% of net income not gross


You shouldn’t come close to that with rent

I don't think you can apply blanket rules of thumb to these situations.

If the kid is 23ish and making $60kish, and roommates are not an option, rent the cheapest spot that is reasonably safe. If that's $1,500/mo, no problem. If it's $1,800/mo, so be it.

Live somewhere decent enough to start, then grow your income and worry about rules of thumb later.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:52 pm to
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Mingo Was His NameO


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You’re a fricking moron, dawg. Damn


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Are you retarded? This seems to be extraordinary simple


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I, for some reason, continue to be amazed out just how fricking stupid some people on this site can be, and for that, I have no one to blame but myself. Just incredible stuff


Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:55 pm to
Why are you doing this just based on a %?

If he finds a comfortable place that is 30%? Are just done looking?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:07 pm to
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CR4090


Dilution is a more difficult concept than simple multiplication. Again, Mingo regrets the error
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
32748 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:35 pm to
Paying rent in general is a bad idea

OWN THAT shite
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
4959 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:42 pm to
This was what we were told in college in the 90’s. Personally I wouldn’t want to be that high. We are in the low 20’s, and would love it to be even lower.
Posted by PaBon
UPT 17th W/D
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:06 pm to
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Paying rent in general is a bad idea


This.

Why haven’t you bought anything out there?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11067 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:20 am to
You need to tell him to start maxing his tax advantaged retirement accounts instead of worrying about living in a luxury apartment.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:28 am to
A lot of yall need to look at what rent is in cities now. It has gotten ridiculous - its the same/higher cost than mortgages.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56656 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:30 am to
Not everyone should live in "cities"
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:51 am to
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30% of gross probably lands you 50% of take home. That’s not leaving much wiggle unless you have a high income.
I cannot come up with a scenario where 30% of gross is 50% of net, unless someone is a high earner has a high effective tax rate, in which case, they have much more discretionary income to spare.

For example, let’s say someone is single and makes $60k, puts 3% towards 401k match ($1,800), and $6k towards pre-tax insurance premiums, HSA, etc. So 7.65% of the $54,000 (after the pre-tax premiums, HSA, are deducted), which is $4,131 with go to payroll taxes, and his AGI for income taxes will be $52,200. With just the standard deduction and no other deductions or credits, the federal income taxes will he $4,280.

So altogether that a total of $16,211 subtracted from his gross, leaving him with $43,789, or ~73% of his income. So 30% of the gross ($18k) would be ~41% of his net. And even if there are state/local income taxes, those aren’t going to come anywhere close to the $7,789 to get 30% of gross to be 50% of net.

And by my quick math, he could triple his income to $180k and excluding any state/local income taxes, 30% of his gross is still only ~43% of net. And he could still make an additional nearly $44k before he makes a pretty but jump to the 32% tax bracket, but he’s already maxed his social security contribution so that should offset. Hell getting to $500k gross puts him at 46%.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 5:12 am to
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Not everyone should live in "cities"
Want a decent apartment in Slidell? $1,500/month.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56656 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 5:29 am to



You can easily find two bedrooms much nicer than decent in Slidell for $1500/month which would be about $60/k per year in salary.

Hell, you can find three bedroom houses in Mandeville with about 1500sq feet for $1600.

No reason people have to be rent poor other than poor decisions.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11207 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 5:40 am to
30% is an ok number imo IF it includes utilities.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36005 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:27 am to
FHA thresholds used to be around that ( 28/32 ) Always thought it a bit too high. 25% is probably the highest he should go. But, today landlords are in a power position in terms of rent so they will aim towards the 30 -33% neighborhood because they can.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21411 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:48 am to
no. It has to be based on lifestyle choices, not a percentage of income.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24795 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:02 am to
30% seems high to me. Are apartments really going for $2,000+/month?
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