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re: Iowa baw gets 16 years for burning LGBT flag

Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:19 pm to
You can burn Stars and Stripes but not Rainbows?
This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 11:19 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79844 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:20 pm to
Yall really can't be this blinded.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56772 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:21 pm to
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Burning your own flag is protected speech. Stealing someone else’s flag and burning it is theft and arson. You can’t just go around ripping down other people’s flags and burning them with impunity.



This.

The brown baw got too much of a sentence (IMO) for his actions, but his priors and the political climate are not doing him any favors, nor is his steadfast declaration.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52887 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:21 pm to
Gotcha. So this is clickbait
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
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88341 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:22 pm to
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Two prior felonies.

This probably falls under felony arson. Apparently hit him with a hate crime as well.
man. Journalism truly is fricking dead. Capitalism has taken over. Why the hell wouldn't they put that in the article. Nothing to see here.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79844 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:23 pm to
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Why the hell wouldn't they put that in the article. Nothing to see here.


Apologies. That info was in another article I read about the subject
This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 11:26 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79844 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:24 pm to
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Gotcha. So this is clickbait


Seems that way.

Looks like the church is about 6 blocks away. So ya boy went out of his way to do this.

I would guess by his other comments he probably said some other stupid shite to the cops to give them the ammo needed for the hate crime.
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Story County Attorney Jessica Reynolds said hate crime charges were added because Martinez is suspected of criminal mischief against someone's property because of "what it represents as far as sexual orientation."
This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31179 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:36 pm to
Dear future criminal defendants of tOT never ever in a pre-sentencing hearing tell the judge you will never stop committing crimes.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:40 pm to
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That’s outrageous and a clear miscarriage of justice.


His last name is Rodriguez.

Still feel the same?
Posted by tiganation337
Abbeville
Member since Jan 2019
403 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:40 pm to
lets make a gofundme for his bail
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:41 pm to
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tealing someone else’s flag and burning it is theft and arson. You can’t just go around ripping down other people’s flags and burning them with impunity.


So If I stole a US flag and burned it, I'd get....?
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13389 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:44 pm to
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Boy, Iowan Churches of Christ sure are a lot different than Deep South Churches of Christ.


The United Church of Christ and the Church of Christ are two different denominations entirely.
Posted by HDAU
Member since Nov 2014
1701 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:51 pm to
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Not that I agree with him, but burning a flag has been ruled a form of protest by the Supreme Court.

He’ll appeal


Pretty sure it would need to be your flag though.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:53 pm to
He stole the flag from the church
He burned stolen property
He has prior convictions

Not that I agree with 16 years but there's more to this story
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21527 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:53 pm to
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So If I stole a US flag and burned it, I'd get....?


Depends on your criminal history and the state laws. Could be probation for theft of small value, or they might hit you with some kind of simple arson. If you had priors like this guy, you might get some time.

Some may think nothing would happen if it is the US rather than a LGBQT flag. They should test their theory by stealing a US flag off a veteran’s grave, burning it, and posting it all on YouTube. Report back on the final sentence.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31179 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 12:08 am to
Habitual offender enhancement
Tells judge he will continue to do this forever
Tells the world in interviews he did because of homosexuality and he has no regrets

Go to lower video of interview on this page

The guy literally made their case for them and in effect begged the judge to max him.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 12:12 am
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
15379 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 12:22 am to
quote:

iving by God’s laws


He’s going to shoot up somewhere.
The sentence might be too little
Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
2937 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 12:41 am to
quote:

Habitual offender enhancement
Tells judge he will continue to do this forever
Tells the world in interviews he did because of homosexuality and he has no regrets

Go to lower video of interview on this page

The guy literally made their case for them and in effect begged the judge to max him.


What a dumbass. I agree that 16 years is steep, but he aint doing a whole lot of favors for himself.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135035 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 12:50 am to
Then get him for theft and arson, not this BS
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79844 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 12:54 am to
They did
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