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re: Iowa baw gets 16 years for burning LGBT flag
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:00 pm to cyarrr
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:00 pm to cyarrr
So firing a firearm in the street is fine as long as no one is hit?
The impact I guess would go to intimidation. Since he was publicly doing it while trying to intimidate or frighten. That might be strong, but he could have stolen it and thrown it away.
The impact I guess would go to intimidation. Since he was publicly doing it while trying to intimidate or frighten. That might be strong, but he could have stolen it and thrown it away.
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:02 pm to SEClint
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Adolfo Martinez,
Obviously a white Hispanic.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:03 pm to fr33manator
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Not that I agree with him, but burning a flag has been ruled a form of protest by the Supreme Court.
He’ll appeal
It wasn't his flag to burn
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:15 pm to Powerman
Apparently another guy in Des Moines burned a different rainbow flag at a gay bar and is being charged with similar charges.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:15 pm to cyarrr
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And what exactly was the impact of this crime?
It upsets pussies.
Anyone who thinks it should be a crime is as stupid as the guy who burned it.
It's a misdemeanor theft, at worst.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:19 pm to fightin tigers
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So firing a firearm in the street is fine as long as no one is hit?
What?
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The impact I guess would go to intimidation. Since he was publicly doing it while trying to intimidate or frighten. That might be strong, but he could have stolen it and thrown it away.
I would guess intimidation also, but if they were not present how could he be intimidating them?
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:24 pm to cyarrr
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I would guess intimidation also, but if they were not present how could he be intimidating them
We have moved on to one can only be intimidated by an event if you are present now?
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It upsets pussies.
Anyone who thinks it should be a crime is as stupid as the guy who burned it.
It's a misdemeanor theft, at worst.
One more time for the slow kids in the back.
This is how he got the 15 year portion of the sentence:
The charge was 3rd degree Arson which carries 2 years
The place he burned it and the language he used both during and after the burning constituted a hate crime enhancement in Iowa which moved the Arson sentenced to 5 years
He was already a 2-time felon so the habitual offender enhancement kicked in which triples the 5 years to 15.
He was an idiot and did interviews saying he would never stop doing this type of crime he then told the judge the same thing. You simply can't do this kind of dumbassery and not get maxed.
This isn't guy that got railroaded because he burned a rainbow flag in a peaceful protest. Dislike the hate crime enhancement all you like but if you look at the totality of his actions and comments both during and after the crime it is clear he is a dangerous nutjob that needs to be off the streets. People do far worse and get far less time but most of them make a point to vigorously defend themselves vs this guy who does everything to ensure he is convicted and gets max time.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:40 pm to SEClint
He's probably gay.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 4:41 pm to Obtuse1
The interrogation, if you can call it that, was just weird.
Dude was speaking like he had a mandate from God.
Dude was speaking like he had a mandate from God.
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