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Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79281 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:51 pm to
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It's admissible against him as far as I know.


100% admissible, but he admitted to those a long time agom
Posted by WhereIsMyBestLife
Member since Feb 2023
19 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:55 pm to
I for one would not be surprised if he is convicted just because the jury knows he is going away for the rest of his life, so what does it hurt to convict and give everyone a sense of closure, even if he actually didnt do it?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:00 pm to
Did the investigators reenact if: from inside or outside of the house, the caliber of guns used could be heard from the kennels?

Posted by shallowminded
Member since Nov 2012
3036 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:09 pm to
They need to bring an addict of any kind up to testify. When the prosecution was asking about how much he was taking daily( pills/ opioids).. He would go around the question and explain what pills he was taking. Every addict, using and in recovery can tell you the exact amount of whatever their vice is/was that it takes to get outta bed, the exact time and moment they would hit it up again, and so on throughout the day. I don’t believe he was a addict, another lie!
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39309 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:11 pm to
So he’s being tried for financial issues as well? I was thinking murder only. I hate to ask that but really haven’t followed until earlier this week.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 5:13 pm
Posted by CajunInFL
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2007
2048 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:12 pm to
Yes, he's got 90 counts against him for financial crimes.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
8784 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:14 pm to
Lies, lies, and more lies.

Two more glaring lies from his first story to the cops is that when he woke up from his nap “I thought I heard a car pull up to the house.” Also as he was walking to his car to drive to his mom’s he says “we have a cat that lives near the house and I heard some rustling in the woods but I’m not sure if it was the cat.”

He nonchalantly planted these details (lies) early on to try and convince the cops that someone had pulled up to the house and was running through the woods, indicating that he might’ve heard the killer.

All the while, this was bullshite as he was down at the kennels during this time.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 5:16 pm
Posted by CDUBTX
TX
Member since Mar 2022
267 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:17 pm to
The whole thing is so insane. The guy is capable of anything. He stole insane amounts of money from people who needed it most. I mean one person was a quadriplegic. No doubt in my mind he’s capable of killing his own family. Give his arse the gas.
Posted by clownbaby
beezwacks not yours
Member since Jan 2009
1060 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:18 pm to
I think there is a very strong possibility that he’s found not guilty for the murders.

I think they definitely get him on the financial crimes and that’s where the good ol boys network will make it interesting
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10290 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:31 pm to
Back to the insurance on AM's life. Was the existence of such insurance ever entered into evidence? To whom was it payable? When was it bought and by whom?

Did the partnership have insurance on all the principles? Did it continue past his termination there?
Posted by clownbaby
beezwacks not yours
Member since Jan 2009
1060 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:33 pm to
Speaking of insurance he talked about calling someone about using insurance for his eye surgery.

Not sure if the insurance was through the law firm or not. I’m not well versed in that whole timeline
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
8784 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:39 pm to
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I think there is a very strong possibility that he’s found not guilty for the murders. I think they definitely get him on the financial crimes and that’s where the good ol boys network will make it interesting


All it takes is one idiot for him not to be convicted. It wouldn’t be shocking.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 5:41 pm
Posted by clownbaby
beezwacks not yours
Member since Jan 2009
1060 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:40 pm to
Yeah I’m not really going out on a limb with that one lol
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8534 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:42 pm to
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Did the investigators reenact if: from inside or outside of the house, the caliber of guns used could be heard from the kennels?


Defense had an expert witness that testified that you wouldn’t be able to hear the shots fired at the kennels from inside the house.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:48 pm to
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don’t believe he was a addict, another lie!


No way he was using $50,000 a week in oxycodone. He would overdose the first day I don't care what his tolerance was. Plus being overweight already effected his breathing and blood pressure.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157703 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 5:53 pm to
The judge ruled the financial crimes were relevant. This timeline was admitted into testimony in the court, before AM admitted he was at the kennels.
quote:

Prosecution presents 88-page timeline tracking movements the night of the murders

Paul got to the main house at 8:14 p.m. Maggie was already there. Paul and Maggie’s phones show they were at the house from about 8:14 p.m. to 8:32 p.m., and their phones were locked for a lot of that time.

That might indicate the time they were eating dinner with Alex. Then, Paul starts to move toward the dog kennels, where he arrives at 8:42 p.m.

Paul takes a video to send to his friend Rogan Gibson.

In that video, witnesses have testified you can hear three voices: Paul, Maggie and Alex. That video is taken at 8:44 p.m.

The prosecution says that’s important because in an interview with the defendant two months after the killings, Alex Murdaugh tells investigators that he wasn’t at the kennels around 9 p.m.

"You didn’t go back down there after dinner until you returned from visiting your mother?" the investigator asks.

"Yes sir," Murdaugh responds.

Instead, Alex tells the investigators he took a nap right after dinner and did not go down to the dog kennels where Maggie and Paul’s bodies were found. When they asked about the video with three voices, Murdaugh said it wasn’t him.

"Who do you think it could have been?" the investigator questions.

"I have no idea," Murdaugh answers.

Shortly after recording the video, Paul unlocks his phone for the last time at 8:48 p.m. Maggie unlocks hers for the last time at 8:49 p.m. Then, both stay locked until they’re found by investigators after the murders.

At 8:53 p.m., Maggie’s phone changes orientation like from landscape to portrait multiple times over two minutes, but it isn’t unlocked.

It’s in this time frame the prosecution says the killings took place.

After almost an hour of no activity, Alex’s phone starts showing movement. It indicates 283 steps traveled between 9:02 and 9:06 p.m. He calls Maggie multiple times and sends her a text.

Then, at 9:07 p.m., his car shows that he leaves Moselle and heads to Almeda, where his mother lives.

At 9:08 p.m., Maggie’s phone data shows it’s on the side of the road away from the Moselle property, where it was later found by investigators.

South Carolina Law Enforcement Division Agent Peter Rudolfski testifies Murdaugh’s car slowly drove by that stretch of road where the phone was found on the night of the killings, going down to 42 miles per hour.

Rudolfski says after Murdaugh passed that location, his car began increasing speed, eventually hitting 80 mph.

Alex calls different people while driving to Almeda and arrives at 9:22 p.m. He stays for about 20 minutes, leaving at 9:43 p.m.

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On his way home, Alex texts Maggie and Paul. He arrives at Moselle at 10 p.m. He calls Maggie again at 10:03 p.m. when he arrives at the main house.

Then, at 10:05 p.m., he heads to the dog kennels. At 10:06 p.m., he calls 9-1-1. According to the car data, there’s about 20 seconds between pulling up to the kennels and dialing 9-1-1, although Murdaugh says he checked both Maggie and Paul for a pulse in the 9-1-1 call.

Then he heads up to the main house and back down to the kennels as he tells the dispatcher he’s getting a gun.

The 9-1-1 call ends at 10:17 p.. Immediately after, he calls different friends and family. The first deputy arrives on scene at 10:25 p.m.

All of this data was combined from the evidence presented over nearly four weeks of witness testimony.


This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157703 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 6:14 pm to
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South Carolina Law Enforcement Division Agent Peter Rudolfski testifies Murdaugh’s car slowly drove by that stretch of road where the phone was found on the night of the killings, going down to 42 miles per hour.

Rudolfski says after Murdaugh passed that location, his car began increasing speed, eventually hitting 80 mph.

Alex calls different people while driving to Almeda and arrives at 9:22 p.m. He stays for about 20 minutes, leaving at 9:43 p.m.
Why would AM go 80 miles an hour down a pot holed dirt road, when going 42 where Maggie's phone was found by LE?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46455 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 6:40 pm to
Look it’s obvious he did it or had it done. He is a total POS anyway and will never see freedom again.

But I have trouble with the money he took, nothing I have seen seems to suggest he was spending 2 million a year or so on opioids, I am not even sure that’s possible. My wife seems to think his lifestyle was that and she can definitely spend a million or two a year buy to me it seems like a bunch of money is missing. Then there is that private plane at the hunting camp.

Does anyone else think a bunch of money is missing?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157703 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 6:47 pm to
The hunting home was sold. There was an online listing that it was under contract. LINK

Did AM's law firm put liens on his belongings? Do they get this money from this sale? What about the beach property?

This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4948 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:18 pm to
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Did AM's law firm put liens on his belongings? Do they get this money from this sale? What about the beach property?

Receivers have been appointed to control all of his assets. The proceeds will go towards the civil suits once that is all settled.
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