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re: Investigators When they KNEW Murdaugh lied (Page 112)

Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:30 pm to
Prosecution convinced me he killed them. Looks kike he shot his wife because she was a witness.

This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:31 pm to
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People identify with the defendant in some way and totally reject logic.


The majority of people were actually against this defendant.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:31 pm to
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John Marvin is corrupt to the core. He’s the one who hides the evidence.

And his crocodile tears about trying to clean the crime scene was shot down by SLED.
State agencies have programs to aid the families of traumatic injury to help them get the scenes cleaned up once the site investigation is completed.
Yeah his Richie Cunningham act is obvious to me.

A wake, family meeting could have been held anywhere else but there. Going there is just creepy plus I would be scared of another shooting or attack. I heard John Marvin didn't push and maybe denied SLED searching Miss Libby's house.

Tin foil hat on: I think John Marvin's tractor company could be money laundering and or a shell company.

The attorney in the video I posted that said all kinds of cited case law was broken introducing financial crimes via a character assassination to prove motive.

I think the Murdaugh's are so rotten that the State had zero fricks to give-what is done is done. The Judge made editorial comments of bias that showed this.

It was a mini war as the Judge said LE was maligned within; with we know Randy Murdaugh and the firms powers. The firm remains crooked & AM is the fall guy.

They were celebrating the life sentence of AM. Not just declaring Justice was served. They didn't want the death penalty as they didn't want AM let off that easy. They want him killed by Bubba the Babette anally fricked to death with a shiv.

It was a personal mini war in that town. And like the lawyer said... I could care less either way regarding AM's life but regarding case-law they fried him breaking it.

They annihilated AM's character to presume he murdered. There was no blood on the shirt. They lied because they all know others did the killings for AM but they wanted AM fall guyed and almost crucified.

Not because they were appalled about the financial crimes They have known this for years. Because AM caused their exposure of the firm, banks, dirty cops. The judge had gallows humor we all laughed with.

Disclaimer: IMO. I reserve the right to change my cockamamie tin foil hat thoughts and phone a friend and poll the audience.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Then, what do ya know, the whole roadside shooting situation happens.

Which I strongly believe was his intent to reinforce the whole "They killing us" alibi. And IIRC it did have that effect on witnesses until it quickly unraveled.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:34 pm to
Is this factual?
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:35 pm to
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The attorney in the video I posted that said all kinds of cited case law was broken introducing financial crimes via a character assassination to prove motive.

There was an entire hearing on this and the judge ruled it admissible. I’m sure it will be the topic of appeals but the state didn’t just Willy nilly bring it up.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Alex was asked point blank if he was a family annihilator.


Waters could have explained that better. He just threw the term out there with no context at all. I have yet to talk to anyone that has ever heard that term used before this trial. It is a recognized phenomenon, but not many people have heard of it based on my anecdotal sample.
This post was edited on 3/4/23 at 10:09 am
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:36 pm to
Wtf is this?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:37 pm to
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He should have just gone to the hospital with his dad and “fallen asleep” there. Wake up and go discover in the morning. By going right back to the house he gave such a small window that he was really the only person that could have done it.

Totally. It's like he was compelled to be there at the scene in order to try to guide the investigation, which he did quite vigorously.

And of course, not long after the murders, he rarely if ever mentioned trying to find the true killers.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79250 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:45 pm to
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What would it have taken for you and Bil to seal the deal? What was missing that you needed to see?

Sounds like y'all both think he did it, but there was something missing to convict.


Not to speak for anyone, but I would have like to see some evidence of the cover up. The lack of blood, brain matter, etc., on him, his clothes, his truck, in the house. I don't think he had time to clean everything up and himself, in the time frame presented. I find it much more likely that someone else was involved, committed the killing (at least of Paul), and took the guns with.

I don't think it went down as the state said it did.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157505 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:45 pm to
There is plenty case law to win in appeals but he will be most likely declared dead before it happens. Inside hits won't even have to be asked for. He was convicted of killing his wife & child by his hand-or not. He done.

So all of this discussion is probably moot. But it is intriguing.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:47 pm to
I'm just saying, in this instance I don't really have sympathy for a guy that abused and used the legal system for years to steal and stroke power ended up getting fricked by it.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:48 pm to
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There is plenty case law to win in appeals but he will be most likely declared dead before it happens. Inside hits won't even have to be asked for. He was convicted of killing his wife & child by his hand-or not. He done.


Who in prison cares about Maggie and Paul to whack Alex? There's a lot of bad dudes in there that have done heinous things that don't get killed.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43473 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:49 pm to
The latest whodunit.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Not to speak for anyone, but I would have like to see some evidence of the cover up. The lack of blood, brain matter, etc., on him, his clothes, his truck, in the house. I don't think he had time to clean everything up and himself, in the time frame presented. I find it much more likely that someone else was involved, committed the killing (at least of Paul), and took the guns with.


Fair point. My only issue with that would be that I'm not sure Alex would trust another soul with his secret, and thus his fate. He just strikes me as one that has to be the only person responsible because he doesn't trust anyone else and he thinks he's good enough to do it alone. But that's purely my opinion.
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I don't think it went down as the state said it did.

Very well could be. I'm not even sure the State is convinced of that. They presented what they thought. But I think the only person on this earth that knows exactly what went down is Alex. I wish he would have bit on the judge's invitation to cleanse his conscience. Would love to understand how and why.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34477 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:53 pm to
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Who in prison cares about Maggie and Paul to whack Alex? There's a lot of bad dudes in there that have done heinous things that don't get killed.



Wonder if any of the many people AM screwed over have friends or relatives in the clink?
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:57 pm to
Probably my favorite part of state closing arguments, was when they showed video of Alex lying to the cops about the nap and never going to the kennels, rocking back and forth, and bunching up his lips.

Then, they showed video of him on the stand answering the important questions, and doing the same exact rocking motion and nodding his head, smacking his lips.

And asked the jury, notice anything similar?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36640 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:01 pm to
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He should have just gone to the hospital with his dad and “fallen asleep” there. Wake up and go discover in the morning. By going right back to the house he gave such a small window that he was really the only person that could have done it.
Wouldn't have worked in the end as their cell phones stopping all activity would have given the times of their deaths anyway. He may have realized this.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:02 pm to
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I don't think it went down as the state said it did.


If it went down any other way, Alex would be the only person who could have explained how it went down. And his lies and lack of cooperation put the target on himself.

Plus, as it’s been mentioned, if you’re going to hire somebody to kill your family, you’d be wise to go on a fishing trip during that time.

But they weren’t getting along, and they wouldn’t agree to visit Moselle if not for him luring them there on the premise of visiting grandpa in the hospital.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157505 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:03 pm to
I just saw the full 911 call from the cousin Eddie thing and AM is a freaking nutcase. LINK

There is no doubt they are all dirty. Murdaughs, mostly all cops, the firm, the bank. I am trying to see the full picture is all.
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