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re: India’s aging MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16 in dogfight

Posted on 3/3/19 at 7:26 am to
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
8478 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 7:26 am to
The F-16s were only supposed to be used by the Pakis for anti-terrorism.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 7:28 am to
The Pakistani F-16 was - I’m sure - not updated with the latest tech.

Besides that, the F-16 isn’t an air superiority fighter.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34324 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 7:36 am to
quote:

See his follow up post. “Archer” was a double entendres.


I did, but I used one of my own
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117059 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 7:47 am to
Doubtful the Pakistani pilot is of the same mettle as a USAF pilot.
Posted by goldshellback
Up da bayou a ways...
Member since Mar 2015
292 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 7:53 am to
It's pilot competence. The F16 pilot obviously sucked more than the guy flying the mig.
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2017
1708 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 7:54 am to
Could it be that some countries aren't sold the "full version" of the product?
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Could it be that some countries aren't sold the "full version" of the product?


In this case given, Pakistan gets 1/15 the military aid we give Israel which makes it number 4 on the foreign aid gift list.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74865 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:19 am to
They pretended to be our friends against Bin Laden so we hooked them up.

I didn't think such a large power would still use a mig21. You can buy those on trade a pane. Lol
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50004 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:26 am to
We haven't heard much the last 3-4 days about this skirmish, I guess we won't be seeing a all out war between India and Pakistan.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:27 am to
quote:

They pretended to be our friends against Bin Laden so we hooked them up.


They've had some versions of the F-16 since the 80's. We sold them some more in 2005, and possibly again in 2016
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31623 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:27 am to
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How the frick does a 1960s Cold War era Russian fighter manage to shoot down a modern F-16 in a dogfight? I don’t get it.

Maverick gets it.

Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:34 am to
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This is pretty much exactly the thought i have when i play golf and i see someone get super pissed about a super fancy new driver or other club they just got after a bad shot with that club.

I usually chuckle because it’s not the clubs fault. The club did exact what it is supposed to do.

The person holding club is why the shot sucked.




I remember a guy always complained “those fricking 90 compression balls”
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:36 am to
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:38 am to
quote:


How the frick does a 1960s Cold War era Russian fighter manage to shoot down a modern F-16 in a dogfight? I don’t get it.



Because:

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:44 am to
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: I wish we didn’t give aid like this to Pakistan.


No giving. Sales. $18 million per. Plus parts.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:46 am to
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Plus parts.


On aging fighters, I imagine this is a pretty lucrative deal.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32319 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:46 am to
At least now I understand why it’s taken so long for me to get a response from our IT Help Desk.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12580 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:49 am to
Archer: Well, I just happened to see a MiG 28 do a...
Raj: We!
Archer: Uh, sorry Raj. WE happened to see a MiG 28 do a 4G negative dive.
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 8:56 am
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13098 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 9:01 am to
quote:

How the frick does a 1960s Cold War era Russian fighter manage to shoot down a modern F-16 in a dogfight? I don’t get it.

Maybe because the dog fight participants are two of the worst Air Forces that happened to be modernized?

That dogfight is the military equivalent of a giant bar fight. Except the entire bar is full of blind people. Lots of swings getting thrown... someone will get lucky.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
11460 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 9:12 am to
Pakistan? Watered down tech version of the 16 most likely.
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