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re: Increasing Levels of Teen Suicide
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:52 pm to sta4ever
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:52 pm to sta4ever
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I think that young people don’t know how to handle adversity too well.
Its a lack of coping skills I believe. Small adversities seem giant when you don't have much to compare it to.
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:53 pm to Giantkiller
It is all social media. Social media is evil.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:54 pm to Giantkiller
When every form of media you consume is doom and gloom and the world is coming to an end this is what happens. Kids soak all that stuff up and what do you expect to happen
Kids should be playing outside and not give a shite about politics and whats going on around the world but it's almost unavoidable these days.
Pretty scary stuff
Kids should be playing outside and not give a shite about politics and whats going on around the world but it's almost unavoidable these days.
Pretty scary stuff
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:56 pm to Pelican fan99
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When every form of media you consume is doom and gloom and the world is coming to and end this is what happens.
Kids soak all that stuff up and what do you expect to happen Kids should be playing outside and not give a shite about politics and whats going on around the world but it's almost unavoidable these days.
Pretty scary stuff
It’s not just kids. My best friend is 50 years old and spends all day glued to the news and Twitter and the doom and gloom sites. He is slowly turning into Mel Gibson from Conspiracy Theory. If it can happen to a college educated man, imagine what it’s doing to the kids.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:57 pm to Giantkiller
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Suicides jumped 29% among adolescents ages 15 to 19 over the previous decade, according to a report released Wednesday.
And yet, as the number of teens identifying as “trans” explodes, and we’re told by leftists that if we don’t go along with it, they’ll kill themselves.
Call me crazy, but transing the kids doesn’t appear to be working. I’m foxy, it appears to be making it worse.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:57 pm to Pelican fan99
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When every form of media you consume is doom and gloom and the world is coming to and end this is what happens.
I think it affects many adults too.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:58 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Speaking as someone who has been on a grief counseling team in a situation like this, you’re basically doing triage after something like this happens in a community. You provide comfort, refer out to individual therapy if needed, and later on you utilize outreach services. When it happens in a school, FERPA also comes into play, so you’re really limited in what you can provide that the parents don’t willingly release as well. I can’t speak for Louisiana, but Kentucky requires training for students and staff at the beginning of the school year for suicide prevention and awareness. With a follow up mid-year. But there’s been some legislation passed in the last couple of years limiting what you can ask as a school counselor.
Thanks for the feedback.
I don’t know what all the regs are but just so you know we’re talking about a private catholic school in BR.
Maybe the outreach to students regarding teen suicide will come later, who knows.
Regardless, we’re taking to our student about it now.
Making teen suicide the hush hush topic and dancing around the problem is not a solution.
It needs to be acknowledged as a problem, addressed, and treated in order to try to prevent more senseless deaths.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 6:59 pm to AndyCBR
Is your student in 10th grade? That is the grade mine is in. She went to elementary school with the student that died.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:00 pm to fallguy_1978
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When every form of media you consume is doom and gloom and the world is coming to and end this is what happens.
I think it affects many adults too.
Well yeah, they get so scared, they shoot people who turn into their driveway accidently.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:05 pm to Giantkiller
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The fact that we as human beings are now inundated with a constant barrage of information that never ends.
It's so clearly this.
We had to visit home last weekend. Out on a large piece of land, looking at cattle, watching dogs run. We also saw some friends. I had no idea what was going on in the news and I didn't care. I felt better after 3 days of doing things out there than I had in months.
It's the constant stream of shite being shoved in our faces.
I read reuters headlines and dive deeper into the article if its big enough news. All other news I ingest comes from people bitching on here and reddit, most of the time I have to click out because it's so pointless.
I was lucky because I was riiiiiight on the edge. I didn't get up a cell phone until I was 14 and it was normal. I was on the internt very early, but I was fricking around on sports and coding message boards, not being told that I need to be enraged about politics.
Teenagers don't have the capacity to understand that they are being fed outrage and the world is not actually on fire.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:08 pm to fallguy_1978
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I think kids that age will find a way to use social media etc behind your back
Welp, I guess we'll just give up then. Since they're going to get drunk anyway, we'll use our parental money just to buy them booze and shrug and say, "what are ya gonna do?"
The amount of time they spend in any app can be tracked and limited, you can force them to let you follow them so you can see anything they post, you can force them to not install apps where you can't see what they're sending to whom, not letting them use their phones after a certain time at night to increase their sleep hygiene (which leads to better mood) etc. It's called parental controls. And if they need to ask a chick out, or borrow a set of cleats from a teammate, they can ... drumroll... call or text them.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:08 pm to Cash
That rumor is wrong. No place for rumors at this point. Awful situation for the family.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:12 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:100% it does. And the problem is so many adults force it on kids. When kids see their adults losing their minds over bs that doesn't even matter what do you expect will happen
I think it affects many adults too.
like 95% of the stuff people lose their minds over on a daily basis doesn't even matter or affect their life at all
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:13 pm to LemmyLives
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Welp, I guess we'll just give up then. Since they're going to get drunk anyway, we'll use our parental money just to buy them booze and shrug and say, "what are ya gonna do?"
I don't think that's what they're saying.
There's no way my mom could have stopped me from doing anything online as a kid. She just didn't have the tools. She was working, she had to pay bills, keep us fed, and she didn't know the tech. I was with the tech 24/7 and, as a child, had a more adaptable brain. She could put as many parental controls as she wanted on things, I was going to outsmart her when it came to new tech.
Just like kids today will outsmart parents on new tech. You don't have the upper hand here.
The most you can do is raise them to trust that you have their best interest in mind and let them know that the phone isn't real life.
Yet.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:31 pm to Odysseus32
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You don't have the upper hand here.
Eh, except I do, because I've been in infosec my entire life.
But the point I'm trying to make is that it takes nearly no technical skill to *try.* The instructions on how to configure parental controls on iOS takes less time to read through than an episode of a trash Bravo TV show, by far.
Parents buy the phones. Ten plus years of studies have largely concluded that social media use drives kids into depressive and unhealthy thoughts, particularly girls, but it's just a bridge too far to spend five minutes reading a FAQ.
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let them know that the phone isn't real life.
Fully agree, but easier said than done. It's probably far harder than not letting them install Snapchat.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:34 pm to LemmyLives
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Eh, except I do, because I've been in infosec my entire life.
Sure.
I get what you're saying. But you're kid is from you? They're smart, right? Maybe you control it for a bit. But what about when they start thinking critically and have the desire to get around something?
I'm not saying you're wrong about it, I'm just saying that if you're a smart person, why wouldn't your kid be? Your kid could be smarter than you with his old man as a role model as to how to circumnavigate obstacles, including the ones set by his father.
I feel I should add, I agree. Social media and the access to a constant stream of news is awful and, unfortunately, there will be casualties like this. It's horrible.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:38 pm to tigafan4life
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Is your student in 10th grade? That is the grade mine is in. She went to elementary school with the student that died.
Yes our daughter had a class with the young man last year, but not this year.
I'm not disparaging the school as it's not their fault by any means.
But the issue needs to be brought out into the open if there is any hope of preventing teen suicides. The statistics regarding the increases are frightening.
The church we go to also had a young man commit suicide a few months ago in the same age group.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:43 pm to Richard Grayson
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Throw Away your television
Get off your lazy, spoiled rotten arse, put the phone down, smash the Playstation, and go howl around in the woods
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:45 pm to jbird7
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Ban social media.
They should do to social media what they did to porn sites, should have to provide proof that you are 18+ to access.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:49 pm to BigPerm30
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When I was in high school, when you didn’t get invited to a party chances are you never found out. Now these frickers blast every second all over social media. You do something dumb….bam social media. They only see people’s highlight reels and feel like that is real life. It’s depressing as hell. I think social media is the reason.
I remember I was in high school right when social media was becoming "big". I remember one time, it wasn't even a party, it was some get together that I saw on social media when I wasn't even freaking in town, but I still thought to myself, "There's no way I would have been invited to that if I were in town."
I think it's also just affecting people's relationships with one another. People staring at their phones instead of actually socializing so often nowadays. The "Instagram aesthetic" also seems so important nowadays.
I betcha it's affecting the obesity rate too. Today, where I'm living, was a beautiful day, sunny and perfect temperatures. I spent probably 4-5 hours outside today if not more. Yet, I am sure countless teenagers and young adults sat inside just scrolling their social media feeds today.
It's a problem, but I don't know the solution.
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