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Increase in People Dying at Home

Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:17 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:17 am
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Coronavirus death counts are based on positive tests and driven by hospital deaths. But data from major metropolitan areas shows a spike in at-home deaths, prompting one expert to say current numbers were just “the tip of the iceberg.”



Hmmmm...... OK. You have my attention.


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Experts say it’s possible that some of the jump in at-home death stems from people infected by the virus who either didn’t seek treatment or did but were instructed to shelter in place, and that the undercount is exacerbated by lack of comprehensive testing.


Oh yeah. Here we go!

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It’s also possible that the increase in at-home deaths reflects people dying from other ailments like heart attacks because they couldn’t get to a hospital or refused to go, fearful they’d contract COVID-19.



Well, frick.




Some FB Karen posted this bullshite on my FB feed today when I said this coronavirus was bullshite. This is what is passing for journalism. Amazing how bad it is and even more amazing at how stupid people are.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:19 am to
So it sounds like you're both stupid but in different ways

Congrats?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
7031 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:19 am to
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on my FB

I found the issue...
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:19 am to
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when I said this coronavirus was bullshite.




Yeah, you showed her!
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:19 am to
I don’t know anyone that died at home.

Do you?

Does anyone else?
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21956 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:20 am to
Maybe there’s a spike in people dying at home because everyone is at home?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62314 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:20 am to
Some people who are ill and dying know that If they go to a hospital to die, their love ones will be precluded from seeing them in their last hours and are choosing instead to die at home.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:20 am to
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Experts say it’s possible that some of the jump in at-home death stems from people infected by the virus who either didn’t seek treatment or did but were instructed to shelter in place, and that the undercount is exacerbated by lack of comprehensive testing.
quote:

It’s also possible that the increase in at-home deaths reflects people dying from other ailments like heart attacks because they couldn’t get to a hospital or refused to go, fearful they’d contract COVID-19.


I mean, these sound like pretty reasonable assumptions
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:21 am to
What, specifically, is the problem with the article?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:21 am to
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What, specifically, is the problem with the article?


Karen posted it on Facebook
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:21 am to
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So it sounds like you're both stupid but in different ways

Congrats?


The people who think it's all a hoax and the people so afraid that they're scared to leave their house are two sides of the same coin.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
184649 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:23 am to
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It’s also possible that the increase in at-home deaths reflects people dying from other ailments like heart attacks because they couldn’t get to a hospital


I have been saying that we have no idea how many are dying because they aren't getting proper treatment for other ailments.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:25 am to
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Some people who are ill and dying know that If they go to a hospital to die, their love ones will be precluded from seeing them in their last hours and are choosing instead to die at home.


Yep.

Plus people scared to go to hospital so die from things they might have survived with timely help.

Another consequence of shutdown.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42784 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:28 am to
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Maybe there’s a spike in people dying at home because everyone is at home?


That and because people are afraid to go to hospitals because this virus has been painted as more dangerous than heart attacks.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:29 am to
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I have been saying that we have no idea how many are dying because they aren't getting proper treatment for other ailments.
This is the downside of the stupid orders to shutdown everything in hospitals not related to Wuhan flu management put in place by state governments and supported by those too afraid to walk out their front doors.

Clinics offered a great buffer for those who had ailments and needed evaluation to determine progression.

We removed that and forced them to either come to the ER or stay at home.

Add this to the list of retarded stances taken by governments, the medical community (primarily administrators), and the dumbasses who think every element of society should be closed off.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:31 am to
Fox news just did a report that now New York is reporting probable deaths on top of confirmed deaths. With the probable deaths that increases their death number by 57%. Now I guess we’re going to start seeing this all over the country
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
184649 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:35 am to
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We removed that and forced them to either come to the ER or stay at home.


I had a cousin that couldn't get her ongoing cancer treatments at MD Anderson. She passed away a little over a week ago. She was going to anyway eventually but I have little doubt this sped that along.

I have an uncle dealing with health issues including strokes. He is "visiting" his Dr via Zoom. You can't tell me he is getting the medical attention he may need. No telling if this will shorten his life but I think a good argument can be made that it is possible.

Now multiply that by millions and you see why so many of us think the measures we have taken were too draconian and will hurt more than it helps.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 10:36 am
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:36 am to
So OT Karen came here to share
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
29715 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:37 am to
So shelter at home is........ killing people?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184649 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:38 am to
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I don’t know anyone that died at home.

Do you?

Does anyone else?


I do
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