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re: Inability to afford homes and essentials pushed birth rates to record lows

Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26701 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:30 pm to
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Working from home culture

Your wife got pregnant at work? Damn!!!
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
74346 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:38 pm to
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You mean starter homes that are 2x as big and have high end amenities.


To be fair, very few true start homes are being built. I think the newest generations are open to innovative housing options, but I guess developers must feel there isn't enough money in it or they aren't able to build such homes due to zoning/covenant restrictions.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 12:39 pm
Posted by charlestonchief
Member since Sep 2006
657 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:41 pm to
There are ~ 7 million able bodied men in the US that are not looking to work. I’m positive there are plenty jobs available, most are just too lazy to apply themselves and get after it.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9873 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:43 pm to
You can come up with hundreds of reasons a small % of specific people have less or no kids.

The main one, post industrial revolution is economic.

Bottom line is that if basic costs of living compared to salaries -- most notably health care that forces many mothers to work because husband's job does have sufficient family health benefits -- were more in line with the 60s-70s then a lmuch higher percentage of people would have more kids.


A better discussion is who it really benefits if the population is constantly growing? Sure makes our economy seem like a Ponzi scheme.

This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 1:06 pm
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43881 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:44 pm to
Inflation
Visa Fraud pushing Americans out of upward mobility jobs
Illegals
Housing Out of Touch


Who wants to push out a kid in this economy?
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
53884 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:47 pm to
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were more in line with the 60s-70s then a lmuch higher percentage of people would have more kids.


The data presented is from 1880 to 1936
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
53884 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:51 pm to
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Working from home culture


Lots of people from 1880-1936 worked from home at the farm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6202 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:55 pm to
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Along with social media. No Child Left Behind. Mental illness. Plastics. Vaccines. Spiritual abuse


You forgot George Soros.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9873 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:00 pm to
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The data presented is from 1880 to 1936


Exactly. And that data suggests that economic factors are the most significant correlation to steeper drops in birth rate in a post industrial revolution society.

Such as the difference in birth rates in the 60s and 70s when wages and health care benefits meant more women could stay at home saw higher birth rates post 80s when factories slashed benefits etc...

Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
25041 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:05 pm to
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With basically no job prospects and people unable to afford housing. People moved to high density living situations and permanently put off having families. Almost 1 in 3 women did not give birth through age 34 due to poor economic factors. EDIT to help people Obviously I am referring the era right after the great depression. Clearly the US has been in this situation prior to modern times where birth rates were in free fall


Most boomer thing ive ready today.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
76404 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:22 pm to
your causation is backwards.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
76404 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:23 pm to
ignore BabyTac, he’s a retarded troll.
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
3894 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:42 pm to
Does this include the people who get everything paid for them by the government, or just responsible adults?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8680 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:20 pm to
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The economy was in shambles, and was the primary driver of the declined birth rates. I dont think that can be argued

Yet birth rates in impoverished nations as well as those who are impoverished here show little to no decline.

Seems to point to other reasons
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
53884 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:20 pm to
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Most boomer thing ive ready today.


What is boomer, that people cant read?
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
4137 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Yes, if you're not growing you're dying.


How many people should live in Tennessee? 70 million? 1 billion?
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
53884 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Such as the difference in birth rates in the 60s and 70s when wages and health care benefits meant more women could stay at home saw higher birth rates post 80s when factories slashed benefits etc...


Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17877 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:27 pm to
Why are we talking about pre WWII fertility rates today?
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
25041 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:29 pm to
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What is boomer, that people cant read?


Well youre frickin senile if you think abortions and birth control today are the same as the great depression
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14413 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:44 pm to
Now they see the economic issues this has caused and want to import the 3rd world to keep their businesses afloat
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