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re: In Landmark decision, Jury Finds Realtors Conspired to inflate Commissions|$1.8 B verdict

Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:30 pm to
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Posted by lsu13lsu
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:35 pm to
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It’s also bewildering the buyers agent is supposed to represent the purchasers interests yet openly won’t show a house if there’s no sellers fee


They also will not show houses that have realtors they don't like or are not in their circles. They will steer buyers away from those houses so that realtor won't get any benefit.
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:35 pm to
Well why would a buyers agent show a home without being paid? Unless the buyer or seller plans on reciprocating the agent. A seller doing FSBO has no obligation to pay a buyers agent. It’s just the majority of buyers are represented by an agent. That’s the cons of FSBO I assume
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:37 pm to
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Good. Them & attorneys are the biggest grifters

Ironically, attorneys will make out the best in this lawsuit
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20758 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:43 pm to
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It’s also bewildering the buyers agent is supposed to represent the purchasers interests


If you do the math on the 3% you quickly realize they don't have your best interests at heart. $10k in the sale translates to $300, and while that's nothing to sneeze at, it is minor in the scheme of things for them. They want the sale to happen and happen as quickly as possible so they can move on to the next
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:17 pm to
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Title attorney's are the worst of all.

me: i can has house?

Title attorney: that'll be $2000 for me to google the address and another $500 for the insurance policy in case i frick up.


Here's the idiot in the thread.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:22 pm to
In my last job, I had to work with a lot of Keller Williams realtors and I literally hated every single one of their guts. They were the most demanding, piece of shite a-hole mother frickers I have ever had to work with.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:30 pm to
So who does the $1.8 billion go to besides lawyers?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6540 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:37 pm to
I loved paying thousands in title insurance to refi on a house I built, and had owned since there was a structure on it. Totally makes sense, considering when the title was researched when I initially took possession of a house I instructed a builder to build.

Realtors, lawyers, car dealers, and the liquor industry have far more control over state legislatures than most people realize.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 3:47 pm to
I sold four homes and bought one in the past five years ... am I eligible for a cut of this action?

Heck, if I can go back to 2000 that number would triple in both categories.

How do we find out. One realtor, in particular, butt raped me.
Posted by 251TigerFan
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:32 pm to
Nobody wants title insurance until they do... And then they are really, really glad they had it.

And, it didnt cost you "thousands"

Also, you go lend someone a couple hundred grand for a house and see how you feel without any insurance in place to protect the title to your collateral.

Understandable frustration you have, but title insurance is undoubtedly a necessary "evil"
Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
Member since Feb 2015
1882 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:33 pm to
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I loved paying thousands in title insurance to refi on a house I built, and had owned since there was a structure on it. Totally makes sense, considering when the title was researched when I initially took possession of a house I instructed a builder to build.


You probably are referring to LENDER'S title insurance. The lender doesn't give a shite if you think the title is clear. They're not gonna lend you hundreds of thousands willy-nilly.

You don't keep buying owner's title on the same property over and over. You buy that once for your lifetime. But if you keep refinancing, you're going to keep paying lender's title insurance, same as you're going to keep paying for origination fees, appraisals, courthouse recording, etc.
Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:44 pm to
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Title attorney: that'll be $2000 for me to google the address and another $500 for the insurance policy in case i frick up.



Every house I've ever bought the title fees were pretty reasonable compared to the lender's origination fees, the commissions, the homeowner's and flood insurance, etc.

And it's a little more than somebody googling the address . It's a pretty big purchase for most people, so it's not an investment you want to leave up to a minimum wage employee just "googling around."

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another $500 for the insurance policy in case i frick up


You obviously don't know what it covers, and obviously don't know anybody that's had to file a claim. But it's optional, so go ahead and take the risk on your next house. After all, you could just DIY and google around yourself
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 4:58 pm to
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I haven’t read the case but I’m assuming it was collusion to not show prospective buyers properties that weren’t going to pay them 3% commission.




Yes and NAR has conspired for years to keep discount brokerages off of the MLS as well.

Some places will put your home on the MLS for 1% listing fee then leave it up to you what you want to offer the selling agent. NAR hates this model and has worked against it for years.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6540 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 5:08 pm to
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Nobody wants title insurance until they do... And then they are really, really glad they had it.

And, it didnt cost you "thousands"


Ok, you can't read. I specifically said that I'd had title insurance when I took possession initially , but then had to purchase title insurance again, when I essentially bought it from myself.

The first time, I paid $4038 for title insurance. The refi title insurance was $2k, when I was supposedly insuring that the title I'd already gotten insured needed to be insured again.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
17112 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 5:25 pm to
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I haven’t read the case


It shows.

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assuming it was collusion to not show prospective buyers properties that weren’t going to pay them 3% commission.


This is not what the case is about.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3163 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 5:29 pm to
Creating boogeymen to detract from the fiscal policy that got us here.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64162 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 5:30 pm to
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Ok, you can't read. I specifically said that I'd had title insurance when I took possession initially , but then had to purchase title insurance again, when I essentially bought it from myself.

The first time, I paid $4038 for title insurance. The refi title insurance was $2k, when I was supposedly insuring that the title I'd already gotten insured needed to be insured again.


Standard title insurance insures the mortgage company and is tied to that particular mortgage. If you refi, you need title insurance on that new mortgage. Just like buying a new car, even though you are the same driver, you need a new ins policy.

I'm not saying it's not a racket.

If you bought an owner's policy, then I would think that should carry over regardless of refi. But standard title insurance covers the mortgage company, not the owner. New mortgage, new policy.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6540 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 5:32 pm to
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I'm not saying it's not a racket.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17048 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 5:34 pm to
Yeah but after like 6 months they are “experts” at real estate knowledge and send them a message if you are curious if now is the right time to buy
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