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In Landmark decision, Jury Finds Realtors Conspired to inflate Commissions|$1.8 B verdict

Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:56 pm
Per WSJ:

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The verdict, which hands loss to brokerages and industry trade association, could upend the home-sale industry


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Per Yahoo finance:

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A Kansas City jury has found the National Association of Realtors, HomeServices of America and Keller Williams guilty of colluding to inflate or maintain high commission rates through NAR’s Clear Cooperation Rule, in the Sitzer/Burnett buyer broker commission lawsuit.

The defendants have been ordered to pay damages of $1.78 billion. Treble damages could result in the NAR and brokerages paying more than twice that amount. It also opens the door to additional potential class-action lawsuits being filed in other states.


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This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:57 pm to
Couldn't have happened to a better group of people
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35056 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:58 pm to
How do I get my chunk of this?
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
15930 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:00 pm to
for real.....my real estate guy was awesome, but the listing agent was arse. we got taken advantage of and didn't realize until too late.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:00 pm to
Good. Them & attorneys are the biggest grifters
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12468 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:05 pm to
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Them & attorneys are the biggest grifters

Title attorney's are the worst of all.

me: i can has house?

Title attorney: that'll be $2000 for me to google the address and another $500 for the insurance policy in case i frick up.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:06 pm to
Only several decades too late.

I have remained stunned at how sticky the ridiculous 3% and 3% pricing has stayed in force in the internet age.

The several times I've had to list in the past 10 years or so, I would always find a listing agent that would take 1% (1.5% max) and when I would direct the listing agent to write the listing such that the selling agent was only paid 1-2% instead of 3%. They would just tell you straight up: the selling agents will boycott such listings.

frick all of these motherfrickers.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:07 pm to
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for real.....my real estate guy was awesome, but the listing agent was arse. we got taken advantage of and didn't realize until too late.


This. Our agent was great but the listing agent lived in the home and didn't disclose it.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:10 pm to
The realtors I know are mostly good people. I feel like I only get half truths from them though.

They worked harder for us for the $600,000 primary residence than they are for the $200,000 investment properties we are looking at for obvious reasons.

Some realtors don’t give a shite about the smaller sales.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1628 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:11 pm to
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my real estate guy was awesome
quote:

we got taken advantage of and didn't realize until too late.


Then it sounds like your agent wasn't as awesome as you thought he was
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5105 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:12 pm to
So what was the conspiracy exactly? How do you inflate something that is negotiable?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:15 pm to
I haven’t read the case but I’m assuming it was collusion to not show prospective buyers properties that weren’t going to pay them 3% commission.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:16 pm to
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also opens the door to additional potential class-action lawsuits being filed in other states.


So plantiffs get $1.49. Attorneys get boats, but as long as the defendants pay.... That's justice!
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61466 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:17 pm to
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So what was the conspiracy exactly? How do you inflate something that is negotiable?


It's right there in the story that was pasted:

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A Kansas City jury has found the National Association of Realtors, HomeServices of America and Keller Williams guilty of colluding
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:21 pm to
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collusion to not show prospective buyers properties that weren’t going to pay them 3% commission.
Correct. They can rot in the 9th circle for this shite.
Posted by WillieD
Lafayette/BR
Member since Apr 2014
2011 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:22 pm to
How much of what we are seeing with increased prices across the board inflation versus corporate greed?
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5105 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:22 pm to
Hmm interesting, I wonder how they proved it.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42465 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:23 pm to
I've had agents flat out tell me they won't show properties with <3% commission rate. frick em. I will always sell by owner and always try to buy by owner
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5105 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 2:24 pm to
Well that’s hilarious, they’re missing out on a ton of business
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