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re: IMO life in this country doesn’t pencil unless you really make an effort to buy equities.

Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:26 pm to
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Three consecutive of years high inflation coupled with higher interest rates has ushered in the "we hate the Boomers era."

Boomers dropped the ball



Look at how the demographics of the us have gone off the rails since boomers have taken over in the mid 80s or so


Demographics are destiny. That’s what it all goes back to
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 10:07 pm to
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The CPI has been 2.8% but the CPI excludes major expenditures like home prices, medical care, and college tuition which are all much, much higher than 2.8%. It’s really not a great metric as to the actual effect of inflation.


True but they are correlated since interest rates and inflation are linked. Inflation goes up so do interest rates. Low interest rates is one of the main drivers of the "inflated" price of housing because people buy their houses on emotion based on what they can afford on a monthly note not the actual price of the house.

College prices have also skyrocketed because interest rates on student loans were extremely low and they were government backed.

If we get a prolonged period of higher interest rates we may start to see stabilization on the growth rates for higher education and housing assuming the higher cost of borrowing money will lower demand.

This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 10:27 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 10:16 pm to
Interest rates should be set and forget at 10%
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 11:04 pm to
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Three consecutive of years high inflation coupled with higher interest rates has ushered in the "we hate the Boomers era."


Everyone hated boomers long before that.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 11:33 pm to
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IMO life in this country doesn’t pencil unless you really make an effort to buy equities.by T1gerNateBasic arrangement for the middle class is you get fricked on everything. Big corporations can do whatever they want and everything keeps getting more and more expensive year after year. Middle class people have no shot to get ahead unless you have a stake in the corporations that are doing the fricking. My advice for my fellow wage cucks is this, avoid consumer debt and sacrifice everything you can to buy low cost ETFs tied to the big indexes.




Everyone has a shot, a legit shot, if they live within their means and learn to struggle before they fly b
Posted by Traffic Circle
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 6:17 am to
ETF gains today are driven less by underlying business performance and more by automatic inflows. When money pours in, prices rise—regardless of fundamentals. That works on the way up, but it’s not real price discovery.

The risk is structural: if those same flows reverse, selling becomes just as indiscriminate. Prices fall not because companies failed, but because the mechanism flipped. Liquidity vanishes when it’s needed most.

Layer on top currency debasement and rule changes, and the “returns” investors see may be largely illusory. You can be flat—or even up—nominally, while losing significant purchasing power.

The appeal of ETFs is simplicity and ease. That’s also the trap. Easy in means easy out—for everyone at once.

History shows that a 40% drawdown can take decades to recover in real terms. Most investors don’t recognize the loss because they’re focused on nominal prices, not what their money actually buys.

ETFs aren’t inherently safe—they’re momentum vehicles built on continuous inflows. If you rely on them, you’re betting the tide never turns.

And, Money Board
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 6:20 am to
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ETFs aren’t inherently safe—they’re momentum vehicles built on continuous inflows.


Not the ones that are tied to an underlying index.
Posted by Traffic Circle
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 6:26 am to
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Not the ones that are tied to an underlying index.


Have you considered that Index ETFs don’t reduce risk—they concentrate it and hide it.

They force money into the biggest names simply because they’re big, not because they’re good. That’s not investing—it’s blind momentum.

When flows reverse, everything gets sold together. Correlations go to one, liquidity vanishes, and “diversification” proves to be a myth.

Indexing doesn’t make markets safer—it makes the unwind faster and more brutal.

Regardless, Cheers. Money Board.

Back to chicks and talking shite for me.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 6:59 am to


That’s why these millenials need to stop eating avocado toast and tighten their belts and put money into ETFs so their elders can cash out



The next shell game in the us financial ponzi will be to tie social security to the market. I think it will be a necessity in the next 5 years because Gen Z can’t find jobs

ETA: when Japan happens here it will be so brutal
This post was edited on 7/11/26 at 7:01 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:16 am to
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Traffic Circle

How pathetic to use AI to post on a message board lmao. frick off bot.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:21 am to
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ETF gains today are driven less by underlying business performance and more by automatic inflows.

ETF inflows are a result of price, not a cause.

Most equity ETFs are cap-weighted and arbitraged tightly to net asset value. If an ETF's price drifts from the value of its underlying holdings, authorized participants create or redeem shares to close the gap. That arbitrage is precisely what enforces price discovery; it doesn't disable it.

E.g., Flows into SPY don't set Apple's price in a vacuum. Apple's price (and thousands of others) sets SPY's price, aggregated. So causality mostly runs the opposite of your claim. Just FYI.

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ETFs aren’t inherently safe
No investment is. Some are safer than others. An ETF, being more diversified than an individual stock holding in the category, mitigates comparative risk.
Posted by clamdip
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:21 am to
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If you aren’t invested in the stock market, you won’t get anywhere. Inflation will eat you up.

And/or in real estate.
Posted by clamdip
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:23 am to
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Interest rates should be set by the market

FIFY
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:26 am to
Seriously though, you and anyone else who has questions or want to learn more should go to the moneyboard.


There are posters who give some great advice and stock picks.

Shoutout BB88. You’ve made the moneybaws some real cash with your stock picks
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:30 am to
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ETA: when Japan happens here it will be so brutal

Japan won’t happen here because of mass migration.
Posted by Upperdecker
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:36 am to
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Dump most of your money in VOO

VOO and chill gets all the boomer womenz
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:50 am to
I've been dumping money into VOO and FDVV for years - some people shite on the high dividend etf's but that quarterly dividend is much higher than picking a stock. For example Walmart stock is $120 and pays 25c. FDVV is $60 and pays 52c with a .15% expense, not to mention how the value of the shares have risen 70% over the last 5 years. Pump money into those two, set up the DRIP, and watch that green line on your chart steadily rise.

Also, no matter what stock or etf you pick some WSB bro is going to give you a meltdown about how something else is better. Ignore it. Buy what works for you and is making money.
This post was edited on 7/11/26 at 7:53 am
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
3783 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 8:00 am to
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some people shite on the high dividend etf's but that quarterly dividend is much higher than picking a stock


Yea these are interesting. The thing that turns me off about them is the higher relative expense ratio. But I’ve never actually sat down and done the math on if the higher yields make up for it or not.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44103 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 8:08 am to
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ETF is just a mutual fund that trades through out the day more like a stock and has some tax efficiency advantages if held in taxable brokerage account vs a mutual fund.


Can I do this myself and cut out the middleman?
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
18141 posts
Posted on 7/11/26 at 8:10 am to
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our definition of “middle class” has changed dramatically over the years.

Young people just starting out believe that they should have the same standard of living as their parents who have been at it for 30 or 40 years.
So they go deep in debt to accumulate all of that right away and find themselves in nearly insurmountable debt and then complain how unfair it is.
That’s moronic on another level, but that’s what Our schools are putting out. Very little critical thinking involved.
This post was edited on 7/11/26 at 8:13 am
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