re: I’m guessing people who think the Bible is fairy tales got proved wrong again

Or humans naturally settled by water which is why every old civilization or religion has flood lore.

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Another good response. Thank you. What if I told you science (a high risk physician) told my wife and I we were going to have a child with Down syndrome, which would have been perfectly fine, but after multiple/additional hospital visits all of the scientific “markers” disappeared. To the absolute amazement of the physician. He couldn’t explain it and wanted to publish it in some medical literature that circulates in their field. That was a supernatural phenomenon that I personally witnessed. No scientific explanation given. The only thing I know was that it was divine intervention.

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So what is it when your child does have down syndrome? Not divine? God didn't create the down syndrome kids?

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So what is it when your child does have down syndrome? Not divine? God didn't create the down syndrome kids?

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Shh.

Magic man only does good.

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Another good response. Thank you. What if I told you science (a high risk physician) told my wife and I we were going to have a child with Down syndrome, which would have been perfectly fine, but after multiple/additional hospital visits all of the scientific “markers” disappeared. To the absolute amazement of the physician. He couldn’t explain it and wanted to publish it in some medical literature that circulates in their field. That was a supernatural phenomenon that I personally witnessed. No scientific explanation given. The only thing I know was that it was divine intervention.

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A misdiagnosis, an abnormal screening result that later resolves, or even an extremely rare spontaneous biological event isn’t evidence of the supernatural. I’m perfectly willing to call what happened remarkable and understand why you personally interpret it as divine intervention. But “medicine didn’t have an explanation for what happened to us” and “therefore God intervened” are two separate claims. The second one still requires evidence that distinguishes divine intervention from misdiagnosis, biological variation, a rare natural process, or something medicine simply doesn’t yet understand.

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And I think there was a historical "Jesus" and many events that were written in the Bible did happen historically. None of those things prove the Bible is real.

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If hieroglyphs contained similar details about an ancient Egyptian leader, historians would acclaim it as a historical marvel. Ironically, the same atheist "historians" opine that the Bible is fiction. There is no limit to the irony associated with such a position.

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yes there are

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No there aren’t.

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No credible historian denies that Jesus was a real person

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Ok, I didn’t say anything about that though.

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Tacitus and Josephus, neither of whom was Christian

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Those statements don’t do what the claim said they do though. I can find you Roman statements about Mithra. Does that mean that Mithra was a real person?

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If hieroglyphs contained similar details about an ancient Egyptian leader, historians would acclaim it as a historical marvel. Ironically, the same atheist "historians" opine that the Bible is fiction. There is no limit to the irony associated with such a position.

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What historians 'would do if' is an assertion without evidence in order to invent a hypothetical double standard.

Come on, man. I know for a fact you can do better than this.

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Species" were not put on the Ark. The Lord told Noah to get 2 of each "Kind". There is a big difference.

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How many “kinds” of animals are there?

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acitus and Josephus, neither of whom was Christian


Those statements don’t do what the claim said they do though. I can find you Roman statements about Mithra. Does that mean that Mithra was a real person?

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OK, how accurately did your Roman writers talk about mithra versus how accurately Josephus and Tacitus spoke about Christ


you're right a lot of people gave opinions about what was going on reported what was going on but separate the mithra comments and the Christ comment how were the other facts that these historians reported how accurate were they?

don't you believe someone who has proven themselves is telling you the truth more so than someone who just tells you things in your daily life
Like right now, do you trust more people who have proven themselves

stock market tips
restaurant recommendations

use that same discernment


btw I'm not trying to win an argument or convince you I'm right i'm just saying maybe look into it.

Just study the validity of the facts that support Christ and the life he lived in ancient times, and how the life he lived perfectly matched up with the Old Testament that predicted the Messiah, and how archaeological findings support the story

Like the book of Isaiah, which they have a nearly complete book, found studies, translated by thousands of "experts," not all Christian or Jewish
and the Bible, through translations, matches up with it , no corrections needed to be made