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re: I’m guessing people who think the Bible is fairy tales got proved wrong again
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:26 pm to Dawgirl
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:26 pm to Dawgirl
quote:So you not only believe in evolution, you believe in 'hyper-evolution?'
ncorrect choice of words. "Species" were not put on the Ark. The Lord told Noah to get 2 of each "Kind". There is a big difference.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:28 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
If hieroglyphs contained similar details about an ancient Egyptian leader, historians would acclaim it as a historical marvel. Ironically, the same atheist "historians" opine that the Bible is fiction. There is no limit to the irony associated with such a position.
quote:
What historians 'would do if' is an assertion without evidence in order to invent a hypothetical double standard.
Come on, man. I know for a fact you can do better than this.
Egyptian hieroglyphs ran the gamut of what they described. Religious history including the origin of man and the gods, everyday life (administration and economics), historical events and lists of kings. Also describes several rulers as divine. Historians have parsed out what was likely historical fact and what was myth. The Bible and religious text in general are similar in this regard.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:31 pm to threedog79
quote:Ultrasound markers can resolve and screening tests can be wrong. What other testing did you do?
He absolutely did/does and that is why I said it in my post it would have been fine if my child had Down syndrome (I have an aunt with a condition). All I know is that after 3 ultrasounds, testing, and work ups all of the visible markers and scientific markers were gone.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:33 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
Ultrasound markers can resolve and screening tests can be wrong. What other testing did you do?
Blood/genetic (if I recall correctly). Don’t want to misrepresent anything.
Didn’t want to go down a rabbit hole from my original question of archeological finds so I’ll bow out. Hope everybody is well.
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:35 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:
I can find you Roman statements about Mithra. Does that mean that Mithra was a real person?
Mithra? Or Mithras? Person or god? I’m taking the Michael Heiser angle here.
From Grok:
The older one: Indo-Iranian Mithra This is the god of covenant, oath, friendship, and cosmic order. In the Avesta he is a yazata who rides before the sun, sees everything, punishes oath-breakers, and has warrior traits. He is associated with light and later with the sun itself, but originally distinct from it. In the divine-council reading this is a straightforward fit: a created elohim / son of God assigned to the Iranian peoples after the division of the nations (Deut 32:8). He becomes an object of worship, which the biblical writers treat as illegitimate even if the being itself is real. The later one: Roman Mithras of the mysteries (roughly 100–400 AD) This is not a simple transplant of the Persian god. The Roman cult used the name and some Persian coloring (“mysteries of the Persians,” Phrygian cap, the name Areimanius), but its defining image—the tauroctony (Mithras killing the cosmic bull in a cave)—does not exist in Iranian Mithra worship. Neither do the underground mithraea built as model universes, the seven grades of initiation, or the heavy astrological framing that many scholars now think is the real heart of the cult. Most specialists treat Roman Mithraism as a new Greco-Roman mystery religion that borrowed an exotic eastern name and some motifs, probably filtered through Anatolia (Commagene, Cilicia) rather than imported wholesale from Persia.
So, Mithra could be one of the sons of God. While Roman Mithraism was the LDS of Mithra worship.
Thought I’d add:
How both fit the Psalm 82 framework
• The original Mithra can be understood as one of the territorial spirits judged in Psalm 82: a real created being given authority over a nation, later corrupted or at least receiving worship that belongs only to Yahweh.
• The Roman cult is a later human (and, in the biblical view, demonic) packaging of that same class of being—or a new presentation of a similar power. Early Christian writers (Justin Martyr especially) explicitly called the Mithraic meal and rock-birth stories demonic imitations of Christian realities. That is exactly the language you would expect if the beings of Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 are real, rebellious, and still active in shaping pagan religion.
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:37 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:Goodness!
without evidence
You have no clue as to WTF "evidence" is.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:37 pm to threedog79
Those are screening tests. Not confirmed diagnosis but no point in getting in the weeds here if you don't remember. 
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:39 pm to Prodigal Son
quote:Yeah a lot of people don't recognize how significant the Tower of Babel was and how the splitting of the nations and the languages and then the people vanished; other regions they created their version of God as they remembered him
So, Mithra could be one of the sons of God. While Roman Mithraism was the LDS of Mithra worship.
The Roman Mithra worshippers were really like the Freemasons
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:41 pm to OWLFAN86
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:41 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:No, I know exactly what evidence is. You made a claim about how historians would react to a hypothetical Egyptian text. Your imagined reaction is not evidence that historians actually apply that double standard.
Goodness!
You have no clue as to WTF "evidence" is.
Are you now claiming your hypothetical scenario is evidence? What the frick are you doing, man?
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:52 pm to CatsGoneWild
quote:
I’m guessing people who think the Bible is fairy tales got proved wrong again
How do we explain dinosaurs
(Idk)
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:53 pm to CatsGoneWild
The bible doesn’t have to be a literal translation especially of the Old Testament. Parts of the it are symbolic and allegorical. That doesn’t take away from the New Testament or Jesus Christ.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:54 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
quote:
How do we explain dinosaurs
God created them. God created everything. Next question.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:56 pm to Prodigal Son
quote:I almost majored in Theology
Prodigal Son
2 Uncles taught theology at Uni
Both granddads were ministers; one a tent revivalist
Parents were missionaries
Dad was a minister
3 other Uncles were as well; 3 Cousins
I was only the second male in my generation of family, both sides to not go into the ministry
All were very academic in their application of their ministry
Most could read Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek
i studied at their feet
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:59 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:No. The hypo is the equivalent of saying, "Had Saban stayed at LSU, we would have fielded stronger teams."
Are you now claiming your hypothetical scenario is evidence?
E.g., The Babylonian Chronicles independently record Nebuchadnezzar's campaign against Jerusalem and the capture of its king, confirming existence of Babylon, Israel, and events corresponding closely to accounts in 2 Kings.
3000 yr-old Aramaic inscriptions refer to the "House of David," corresponding closely to Biblical timeframes. Omri, King of Israel is established in Assyrian Mesha reign inscriptions, as are Ahab, Jehu, and others. There are a truckload of other OT examples. In NT terms, Josephus and Tacitus both historically document Jesus, and early-mid 1st century Christianity. Etc., etc., etc.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 3:59 pm to Sofaking2
Why did every non-avian dinosaur lineage subsequently go extinct while mammals, reptiles, amphibians, birds, and countless other Ark animals survived?
Posted on 9/28/26 at 4:01 pm to NC_Tigah
That's great. Your original assertion that I replied to is still without evidence.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 4:03 pm to Sofaking2
quote:It takes away from none of it. That is the way things were documented across the board in the early historical age.
That doesn’t take away from the New Testament or Jesus Christ.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 4:07 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:So non-Christian contemporary corroborations are not evidence. That is really special.
Your original assertion that I replied to is still without evidence.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 4:08 pm to NC_Tigah
One can never argue someone else to salvation, but you are right: whether they be atheists or agnostics who are a part of this thread
If they're truly curious, they ought to have the courage to look at the information as a whole, not what they learned from some atheist or agnostic professor
Its not up to us to convince; merely put the facts before them
Then it's up to them and more importantly, God
But I'll see you in heaven, and then when we reign on the New Earth,
maybe these people will be our servants
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