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re: If you had to buy a 2025 3/4 ton pickup
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:59 pm to JackieSonnier
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:59 pm to JackieSonnier
I wouldn’t. But if I really had to, it would be a GMC or Chevy.
Source is I used to work for an oil field service company and we had 60 fleet trucks. Chevy was the best brand and we had all of them.
Source is I used to work for an oil field service company and we had 60 fleet trucks. Chevy was the best brand and we had all of them.
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:01 pm to JackieSonnier
GM probably. But under protest.
They all suck right now. But the GM models have the best diesel and the most efficient gas motor. Ford has the most powerful gas motor though.
They all suck right now. But the GM models have the best diesel and the most efficient gas motor. Ford has the most powerful gas motor though.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:07 pm to JackieSonnier
Ford, easily
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:10 pm to Marlo Stanfield
Ford's Scorpion diesel engine program has been way ahead of the competition since they came out with it in 2011. Quiet and efficient, and more powerful.
Ford.
GM
Ram.
Ford.
GM
Ram.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 4:05 am to JackieSonnier
I’d go Ford with 6.7 PSD. Ford has the best emissions control which is the Achilles heel for modern diesels. Their 10 speed is more robust than GM’s. I’ve now owned 2 6.7s which have been flawless.
My next choice would be Ram. The ZF transmission will likely be very successful. Like Ford, they use a solid front axle, however, I’m not sold on their coil suspension for their 2500’s rear end.
Last would be GM. I’m not a fan of their under built 10 speed and IFS front end. Glad to see that Allison has pulled out of that debacle to keep their reputation clean.
My next choice would be Ram. The ZF transmission will likely be very successful. Like Ford, they use a solid front axle, however, I’m not sold on their coil suspension for their 2500’s rear end.
Last would be GM. I’m not a fan of their under built 10 speed and IFS front end. Glad to see that Allison has pulled out of that debacle to keep their reputation clean.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:30 am to BoogaBear
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No it doesn't. At best it may get 16 mpg pure highway.
My buddys averages around 18mpg.
How many of you 3/4 to diesel drivers have scaled the stuff you tow with it? If you actually tow anything that warrants a 3/4 ton truck, youre probably overloading it.
How many of you have actually worked up the total cost of ownership of that great axle twisting turbo diesel? You're into that thing for tens of thousands of dollars more than a comparable gas truck would have costed you by now.
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Getting a 3/4 ton with a gas is the same thing as getting a Camaro or mustang with a V6.
This is such a rediculous take, but Ford and GM will gladly take your giant stack of money and sell you that big bad arse diesel you dont need at all.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:40 am to JackieSonnier
6 post in and an argument about how "nice" the interior is has begun.
This is what has happened to trucks.
This is what has happened to trucks.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 7:08 am to JackieSonnier
Ride by a diesel shop. Count the logos waiting to be repaired then make a decision.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 7:15 am to JackieSonnier
None
Posted on 12/28/25 at 7:21 am to kywildcatfanone
Tacoma / Tundra ?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 7:32 am to JackieSonnier
I have a 2019 Ram 2500 6.4 and it’s been flawless. Gas mileage sucks and it rides terrible but I knew that would be the case when I bought it. I’m hoping to keep it 5 more years or to around 150k miles before looking at a new one.
Pulling a boat and travel trailer is just so much more comfortable with the heavier 3/4 ton especially the TT.
Ram back seat is smaller than Ford or GM.
My cousin just bought a Chevy 3/4 gasser and my neighbor has a new Ford 3/4 gasser and both are nicer than my Ram.
If I was buying again I’d probably go with Chevy.
Pulling a boat and travel trailer is just so much more comfortable with the heavier 3/4 ton especially the TT.
Ram back seat is smaller than Ford or GM.
My cousin just bought a Chevy 3/4 gasser and my neighbor has a new Ford 3/4 gasser and both are nicer than my Ram.
If I was buying again I’d probably go with Chevy.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 7:52 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
While factually true, most folks exceed the payload rating of a 3/4 ton truck when they tow. However it’s also true that the manufacturers de-rate the GVWR to keep them at or below 10,000 lbs.
So typically the truck is capable to tow what it’s towing, but potentially outside of the rated capacities which could be sticky in the event of a traffic accident.
I’ve scaled my truck and trailer and I’m clear by a narrow margin.
As for the question, test drive them all and see what you like best. All of these trucks have their quirks. I drive a 2019 6.7 powerstroke and I’ve enjoyed it.
So typically the truck is capable to tow what it’s towing, but potentially outside of the rated capacities which could be sticky in the event of a traffic accident.
I’ve scaled my truck and trailer and I’m clear by a narrow margin.
As for the question, test drive them all and see what you like best. All of these trucks have their quirks. I drive a 2019 6.7 powerstroke and I’ve enjoyed it.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:39 am to JackieSonnier
F-250 STX with the fx4 and 7.3 with 4.30 gears.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:51 am to JackieSonnier
Bought this yesterday. Nicest truck I’ve ever owned! Oh, and frick you if you don’t like it!
Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:51 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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If you NEED a diesel, you need a 1 ton
There’s a lot of truth in this. I towed a three horse trailer all over the southeast for years with an F250 diesel. Got a sweet deal on a GMC 3500 when I went to replace it. The difference between hauling with a 3/4 ton and the 1 ton was incredible. For that reason, I would never buy a 3/4 ton truck. Luckily, I no longer haul to horse shows so it’s back to a good old half ton gasser. I can’t imagine paying the prices they want for 3/4 ton trucks and larger currently. Absolutely obscene.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:52 am to kayjay
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I wouldn’t have to. No one can make me buy something. Who is making you buy one?
Probably his accountant
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:04 am to tigerinthebueche
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would never buy a 3/4 ton truck.
3/4 ton gassers are great. 3/4 ton diesels have a narrow usable margin, even the newer ones with over 10k GVWR.
Its really difficult to get the truck anywhere near its towing capacity without grossly exceeding payload capacity. There are narrow use cases like a skid steer on a spread axle trailer.
Otherwise, buying one because you want it is fine. Theres no need to do all the mental gymnastics to justify it financially though, because it doesnt math out. If you actually do need to tow big shite, you probably need a one ton. I cringe every time I see a 40' fifth wheel getting dragged 75mph down the interstate with an F250 pulling it.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:12 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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My buddys averages around 18mpg
He is lying. My ram with the 5.7 got less than that.
Rode with a guy on a 4 hour trip to go fishing in his and he got 15 mpg highway. The fuel mileage is absolutely awful on the 6.6 gas. Under 10 mpg towing typically.
Yes upfront they more more expensive, they also last longer and are more suited for what purpose a HD trucks serves.
You keep trying to make the point that gas 3/4 ton is BETTER than a diesel 3/4 ton and you can't. You've made you're point that it is potentially cheaper, and that's it. I believe in the long run they aren't really cheaper, the fuel mileage is painful and you're putting it under a lot more stress towing just so you don't have to pour some DEF in every few months.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:16 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The argument if you need a diesel then you need a 1 ton is a ridiculous argument.
Look around you on the roads, what is more commonly overloaded? Half ton trucks, not heavy duty trucks.
The difference between my 3/4 ton and my half ton in payload is over 1500 lbs. The difference between my 3/4 ton and the equivalent 1 ton is 800 lbs.
I need to tow things that were over the limits of my half ton, I do not need to tow things over the limit of my 3/4 ton that would warrant a 1 ton.
Look around you on the roads, what is more commonly overloaded? Half ton trucks, not heavy duty trucks.
The difference between my 3/4 ton and my half ton in payload is over 1500 lbs. The difference between my 3/4 ton and the equivalent 1 ton is 800 lbs.
I need to tow things that were over the limits of my half ton, I do not need to tow things over the limit of my 3/4 ton that would warrant a 1 ton.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:20 am to BoogaBear
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He is lying
I drove it and got 18.2mpg on a round trip unloaded.
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Under 10 mpg towing typically.
We averaged 11.9 on a round trip to Colorado towing 6,200 lbs. Fair bit of mountains on that trip.
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they also last longer
No they dont
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You keep trying to make the point that gas 3/4 ton is BETTER than a diesel 3/4 ton and you can't.
I can, without even bringing money into tbe discussion. Gas 3/4 tons have far higher payload capacity and are more reliable. Done.
Bring money into the discussion and its a cakewalk. Ive done fleet vehicle work. Best case on a 3/4 ton diesel when its all said and done you do as well as a gas truck on total cost of ownership at 250k service truck miles, a use case the general public thinks is taylor made for diesels. Worst case, you shite a fuel pump and put $12k of repairs into it and the exhaust fails right after and you put another $6k in it and then the def pump fails and you put another $3k in it...
You get the point. Ive seen the data.
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