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re: If you could go back in time what event would you want to see?

Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:32 pm to
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that proof was what sustained the disciples in the earliest believers in establishing the church and that kind of belief that kind of knowledge is what gave them the strength because they knew that they would live again

Imagine all of those, thousands, that witnessed Jesus’ ministry and miracles and didn’t believe.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:35 pm to
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Imagine all of those, thousands, that witnessed Jesus’ ministry and miracles and didn’t believe.


Well as you probably well know a lot of it was explained away as magic and tricks and something insidious by the Pharisees..the Jewish Church/political leaders and the Roman government at the time


It could be used in a way to illustrate having a personal relationship with Christ as the disciples and early followers did which makes the difference

whether just seeing and witnessing some of the stuff like many people who are just a part of the church that lacked the relationship with Christ and it was just interesting

it's one class mentioning one day of conversation about how actually witnessing the resurrection might affect the faith
the consensus was that gave the disciples kind of an extra piece or knowledge in order to endure many of the things they did in the aftermath
Posted by Oswald
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:36 pm to
I’d want to see whatever did, or did not, happen on the sixth floor of the Texas Schoolbook Depository building in Dealey Plaza just before 12:30 p.m. on November 22, 1963.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:36 pm to
September 30, 1927
Yankee Stadium, Bronx, New York
Washington Senators vs. New York Yankees

I'd like to see the entire game, with Babe Ruth hitting his 60th homerun of the season off Tom Zachary in the 8th inning.

January 5, 1940
Cafe Rouge, Hotel Pennsylvania, New York City, New York

I'd like to see the Glenn Miller Orchestra play live.
Posted by Bayou Warrior 64
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:40 pm to
I would choose VE day (May 8th 1945).
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:43 pm to
Two more…
1. How were the pyramids built (ie, aliens)??
2 destruction of dinosaurs
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24161 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:46 pm to
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Well, explain why not.


Faith isn’t “belief with out proof”. That’s Carl Sagan bullshite.

Faith is akin to trust.

Belief is simply what it is. Proof or not. And it’s often an involuntary state.

Some would argue (me included) that belief isn’t even a requirement of faith.

“Idk if you’re up there but I choose to trust your will and teachings, beyond my understanding”

Just like there have been those that had belief but no faith, the opposite can be true.

Faith becoming a pejorative of “silly unsubstantiated belief” is a new thing.

Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:48 pm to
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Go along with Lewis & Clark and see the untamed West before Western Expansion.

that's a good one. i'd love to bring along my fly rod for that time travel expedition as well.

also thinking when columbus lands in the new world and his interaction with the natives.

it would also be cool to visit the athenian agora when socrates was giving lessons.

further back during the neolithic revolution and the development of early human civilization, cities, farming, domestication of animals, division of labor, organized religion, etc. would be wild to see humans evolving culturally that way.
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:51 pm to
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Faith isn’t “belief with out proof”. That’s Carl Sagan bullshite.

Faith is akin to trust.

Belief is simply what it is. Proof or not. And it’s often an involuntary state.

Some would argue (me included) that belief isn’t even a requirement of faith.

“Idk if you’re up there but I choose to trust your will and teachings, beyond my understanding”

Just like there have been those that had belief but no faith, the opposite can be true.

Faith becoming a pejorative of “silly unsubstantiated belief” is a new thing.


You'd have been one of those people that argued semantics in the temple all day while Jesus was performing miracles amongst the poor.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24161 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 1:52 pm to
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You'd have been one of those people that argued semantics in the temple all day while Jesus was performing miracles amongst the poor.


I’d say I’m arguing the opposite.

Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5673 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:02 pm to
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Some would argue (me included) that belief isn’t even a requirement of faith.

“Idk if you’re up there but I choose to trust your will and teachings, beyond my understanding”


I mean, I would call that a belief. Or at least an act of volition rather than intellect. But if we follow Alexander Bain's definition of belief as an idea upon which I am prepared to act, the distinction between volition and intellect gets dissolved. What you're describing sounds a little like a combination of Schleiermacher (faith as absolute fidelity) and William James (the will to believe). Not bad company to be in!
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
1834 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:12 pm to
JFK assassination
Roswell
Posted by West Seattle Dude
West Sesttle
Member since Aug 2023
309 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:16 pm to
1955 World Series. Brooklyn Dodgers vs. Yankees. Day games and many future HOF:
Mantle, Yogi, Whitey Ford, Jackie Robinson, Duke Snider, Koufax, Roy Campanella. So much talent on one field. It was Brooklyn’s only World Series title.
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
5479 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:16 pm to
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I'd love to see a lot of WW2-related things

Birds eye view of the 4 naval battles of Leyte Gulf or the night naval battles of Iron Bottom Sound around Guadalcanal
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
22463 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:17 pm to
Pickets Charge
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14412 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Pickets Charge


Having a nice yacht out on the open ocean to watch the Titanic hit the iceberg then watch it sink.
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
2118 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:29 pm to
Battle of New Orleans, Alamo, Gettysburg, Little Big Horn
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6809 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:38 pm to
JFK assassination. I know exactly where I’d want to stand
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2898 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:49 pm to
I'd rather go forward in time to see if it's worth hanging around for.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4828 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 2:56 pm to
April 28, 1959. At the Mackinac Bridge with all the cameras I could carry.

I'm taking her under

tl;dr; -- Captain John Lappo flew a B-47 under the Mackinac Bridge.

155 feet water surface to roadway; the plane was 28 feet tall.

B-47:


Bridge:
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