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If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:40 pm
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Kaiser Permanante negotiated a pay raise with a nursing union in California that would raise hourly RN wages to $169.00 an hour.
If states in the Deep South and Midwest would follow suit, then maybe we wouldn’t have such a large nursing shortage. If you want to have a field of nurses that are happy with their jobs and perform their jobs to the highest standard that they can, it’s pretty simple: pay them more. These corporate hospital systems are bringing in billions and billions of dollars. Sure, upping their pay will raise premiums, but in return the customers get high-quality care. It’s a win-win situation.
And by law, ERs have to treat patients regardless if they can’t afford a medical bill. So it’s not like these patients won’t be able to get treatment.
In the Deep South, nursing pay is abysmal. Some RNs start out at $21-$23 an hour. I wonder why all of the nursing talent is going to California?
Kaiser Permanante negotiated a pay raise with a nursing union in California that would raise hourly RN wages to $169.00 an hour.
If states in the Deep South and Midwest would follow suit, then maybe we wouldn’t have such a large nursing shortage. If you want to have a field of nurses that are happy with their jobs and perform their jobs to the highest standard that they can, it’s pretty simple: pay them more. These corporate hospital systems are bringing in billions and billions of dollars. Sure, upping their pay will raise premiums, but in return the customers get high-quality care. It’s a win-win situation.
And by law, ERs have to treat patients regardless if they can’t afford a medical bill. So it’s not like these patients won’t be able to get treatment.
In the Deep South, nursing pay is abysmal. Some RNs start out at $21-$23 an hour. I wonder why all of the nursing talent is going to California?
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Kaiser reported a net revenue exceeding $91.3 billion in 2022.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 10:43 pm
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:41 pm to JasonDBlaha
Good night nurse
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:42 pm to JasonDBlaha
Ive watched a lot of short films about nursing
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:44 pm to JasonDBlaha
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raise hourly RN wages to $169.00 an hour.
Lol
Wut
A lot of physicians dont make that
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:45 pm to JasonDBlaha
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Kaiser reported a net revenue exceeding $91.3 billion in 2022.
Revenue isnt profit moron
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:47 pm to Cosmo
If a hospital company is raking in $20 billion a year, they should be able to afford to pay their nurses at least $120,000 a year
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:48 pm to JasonDBlaha
There's no nursing shortage.
Everyone knows this, except you, I guess.
Everyone knows this, except you, I guess.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:49 pm to JasonDBlaha
I think many nurses would be happier by simply hiring more nurses and lightening their patient load.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:51 pm to VetteGuy
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There's no nursing shortage.
I call bullshite
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The American Hospital Association quoted federal data which indicates an estimate that half a million nurses would leave the field by the end of 2023, bringing the total shortage to 1.1 million.
If there is no nursing shortage, then why are all of these travel nursing agencies offering crazy 3 month contracts that pay close to $6,000 a week?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:52 pm to JasonDBlaha
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Kaiser Permanante negotiated a pay raise with a nursing union in California that would raise hourly RN wages to $169.00 an hour.
If a hospital company is raking in $20 billion a year, they should be able to afford to pay their nurses at least $120,000 a year
The $169/hr you quoted above is $351,520 for 52 weeks at 40 hours a week. There are a bunch of actual doctors that don’t make that.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:55 pm to BigBinBR
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The $169/hr you quoted above is $351,520 for 52 weeks at 40 hours a week. There are a bunch of actual doctors that don’t make that.
When you factor in COL and California taxes that reduces it to at least $200,000 which would be equivalent to $130,000-$150,000 in Deep South states like Texas and Louisiana
Everything is bigger in California which is why the salaries are so inflated there
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:56 pm to JasonDBlaha
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If there is no nursing shortage, then why are all of these travel nursing agencies offering crazy 3 month contracts that pay close to $6,000 a week?
Usually in places nobody wants to live. So you tell them "just stay for 3 months".
And there is a shortage, because you can't just apply for the job. You have to be specifically trained for it, and a lot of people aren't smart enough, while others can't take themselves out of the workforce that long.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:56 pm to JasonDBlaha
Defund the Nurses.
They don't need to make 169.00 an hour to make Tik Tok videos.
They don't need to make 169.00 an hour to make Tik Tok videos.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:57 pm to JasonDBlaha
An ugly(?) little secret about professions dominated by women is that they don't view money in the same way as men.
There's a joke about this that goes something like if you offer a group of men $1,000 a hour then a lot of them will work 70 or more hours a week. Offer a group of women the same conditions and most will work one day in a week or maybe even one day a month.
Which is to say men probably don't balance work and life, believe their reproductive success improves with more money, and tend to socially compete with other men with respect to their income.
Women on the other hand tend to be less willing to do jobs they hate, more interested in work life balance, do not generally believe finding a mate is improved significantly by earning more, and compete with other women over things other than their income.
There's a joke about this that goes something like if you offer a group of men $1,000 a hour then a lot of them will work 70 or more hours a week. Offer a group of women the same conditions and most will work one day in a week or maybe even one day a month.
Which is to say men probably don't balance work and life, believe their reproductive success improves with more money, and tend to socially compete with other men with respect to their income.
Women on the other hand tend to be less willing to do jobs they hate, more interested in work life balance, do not generally believe finding a mate is improved significantly by earning more, and compete with other women over things other than their income.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:58 pm to JasonDBlaha
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Everything is taxed at higher rate in California which is why the salaries are so inflated there
Are you a teenager?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:59 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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And there is a shortage, because you can't just apply for the job. You have to be specifically trained for it, and a lot of people aren't smart enough, while others can't take themselves out of the workforce that long.
Which is why nursing unions are important. If there was a strong nursing union presence in all states then we wouldn’t be having this problem of shortages of nurses.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:00 pm to JasonDBlaha
Did you makeup the 169/hr number? It’s not mentioned anywhere in the article.
Simple states minimum wage for all healthcare works will be at a minimum of 25/hr and Kaiser will give raises of up to 21% by 2027
Simple states minimum wage for all healthcare works will be at a minimum of 25/hr and Kaiser will give raises of up to 21% by 2027
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:02 pm to molsusports
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Women on the other hand tend to be less willing to do jobs they hate, more interested in work life balance, do not generally believe finding a mate is improved significantly by earning more, and compete with other women over things other than their income.
True. Men are less likely to bitch about their jobs compared to women because part of our masculine nature is to do things we hate and not complain. That’s not to say that nurses are underpaid, because they absolutely are across the nation and is the reason why not many people want to be nurses anymore
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:03 pm to JasonDBlaha
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Which is why nursing unions are important. If there was a strong nursing union presence in all states then we wouldn’t be having this problem of shortages of nurses.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:03 pm to JasonDBlaha
I cant tell if the OP is satire or not.
If nurses made $169/hr the Healthcare industry would implode.
If nurses made $169/hr the Healthcare industry would implode.
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